Genuinely GG
Genuinely GG

Episode 43 · 3 weeks ago

What I Am w/ Buck Angel

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

GG talks to Buck Ange l. An important conversation with an important person during important times. 

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Straw Media. You know her from Shaws of Sunset. You know she doesn't hold back. I'm a little bit in the spotlight because I'm in the industry. We're in cancel culture, and you know, you can't say anything wrong these days, you cannot you can't walk up. This is genuinely gi Yeah, I would like to get right into right on. I'm a note for a play that's my favorite. Let's just do it. Let's just do it hardly. We did do something because I'm Buck stepped in and I got wet. Literally. Hopefully it dries off and I don't have a Kylie Jenner lactating thing. Everybody, welcome Buck Angel to the show. Thank you for being here. Thank you. It's so cool that you reached out to me. You're awesome. Thank you for saying. Now, why do you think it's cool that I reached out, Because not everybody does. I think sometimes they feel intimidated because of who I am and what I do, or you know, I'm kind of controversial in the whole trans scene. That's what it makes me. Just always want to be best friends with someone, Always always thinking, Um, I did check out your Instagram. You are so interesting. Um your mind works in mysterious ways. That is just so enigmatic and intriguing that I had to bring you in because I want to learn more and I want the people who out there who listen to learn more. Thank you. It's a big deal bringing awareness, especially at a time like this. I think it's it's really important to do it the right way. Thank you. That means a lot to me that you really see it might not be your community or whatever, but that you see the importance of the converse. You know, we don't have conversation anymore. People are so weird about saying things that might offend or not be on the same side. And I'm not. I'm totally the opposite of that. I always have stood alone and I always really will say what's on my mind. I'm not scared to say that. So you just a second ago that you were, Um, surprisingly we shout to you because of who you are what you are, and you said what you are. Can you explain because I don't like that you said what you are as you are who? Okay, so um, explain to everyone who's watching and listening what we meant by that. So I kind of meant a lot of things, but I think mostly. What I meant is I'm a transsexual man, and so what that means is that I was born female. I'm a biological female who took testosterone thirty years ago. I transitioned to live as a man, so I live as a man. I am not a man. I live as a man. I'm a biological female who what we used to call sex change. So I sort of had a sex change to live and look like a man and walk the world that way because I had something called gender dysphoria. So with that, I've you know, now we have a whole new trans Yes we do. It's become very fashionable almost um and it's leading and misleading in the same you know token. But it's important to understand because I think people who don't understand the community, and not just the community who people because are in the community, I think are more bullies UM to transseexuals than people who are outside of it. I think everyone on the outside has a bit of a fear from a lack of knowledge, so we are afraid to approach it because we're in cancel culture, and you know, you can't say anything wrong these days, you cannot You can't find I'm a little bit in the spotlight because I'm in the industry, and it's just I sweat every time I'm in this chair, like, oh my god, did I say wrong? I'm it's it's exhausting, you know. I feel like we should be able to make a mistake out of pure interest of knowing what the right is. So how can you make how do you make how can you make an informed choice or a decision if you're not getting all sides of the equation. I mean, you know, that's with lots of things. And so now people have put us in a position to fear what you...

...just said, to say something because we might offend somebody. But I don't care if I offend you, because you get offended easily. Know why because because I was in pornography. My career started in pornography as a man or as a woman. As a man, I created the genre of transmail pornography twenty two years ago. Nobody even knew about a guy like me. So I went into porn which, again that's a whole other conversation. You know, people have issues that conversation that I want to And then I got into the sex toy business. But that being said, Oh yeah, I'm also in that business. We'll talk about anyway. My point being is because I have really done something that people hate more than they hate sex changes. They hate porn. Porn is like the evil of the world. Oh my god, everyone watches, but they will deny it. So it made me have to grow a thick skin. So I think on some level because of being a pornographer, I had to grow this sort of thick skin to deal with all the hate. And it's the same thing that's happening today. So I have thick skin where you know, it's just words that words don't hurt me, and it doesn't mean I still don't get hurt. Yeah, it takes a lot to hurt me. I'll be honest with you because I'm so grounded in my transition. I'm so grounded in who I am. I know who I'm. I don't need your validation, No, I do not, So why do you have to over exude that you are trans? Right? Well, because I'm an activist in that space, I think, And that's why, because it really pertains to a lot of what I talk about in the world. And it's not just about being trans, it's about really finding who you are. That's really my message. My message comes through my transition, but I don't live in my transition, if that, If that makes sense, I really try to show the world that I came from homelessness, drug addiction, cutting, suicide attempts, and I could go on and on and here I sit as I'm sixty years old. Now I'm sixty, I can't even what I'm saying because you drinking and taking honey. Hello, if anyone, I'm about to be forty one in a month. I mean good doctors, and I do swear by cannabis. But also I can tell you're a happy person. I can tell, but I am very similar to you. I have a very, very rough past. Um I had identity issues. Mine were not gender. At an age, I did believe I might have gender issues because I'm such a tomboy and I'm so alpha. And then I realized no. I was born in the beginning of the eighties where feminism was a new thing, and I thought my mom was a lesbian only because she was always feminist. This feminist that fuck men. So I felt like, yeah, you know, I drive a raptor. You know, I I'm very So I did have identity issues both with my culture, with my gender and understanding who I was. I went through cutting, I got kicked of ten schools, arrested drugs at the age of eleven. So I did it all. I did it all as well, and I was able to find myself throughout all that somehow where now my roots, like you are very fucking deep. End hurts me still though. When I read those comments, and I was reading your Instagram and I saw some of the things, I feel like you are constantly educating people, but it's almost like people are just sometimes assholes and testing just to see certain responses, And for some reason it bothers me still. It bothers me that we live in a world and I have a two year old son. He has long hair and I don't care, you know, and he has very small features, so everyone thinks he's a girl. I don't care when people say, why don't you got to say? It's still bothers me. But I have a ten year old son, same thing he has, and people are like at one time a kid thought he was a girl who was coming up to and he said, oh great,...

...here comes a girl. And my son, whose name is Jonah turns around and goes, I'm a boy. But it didn't bother him. He laughed, He bother you. And I'm all about gender stereotypes. What I mean is I want to dismantle it's all about what you just said. Because you are a butch or tom masculine girl does not make you trans. And it's not like I'm not I remember even been remotely this iding. Women are so fucking gorgeous, God bless them. They are the work of art. But I've never been sexually turned on or aroused by a woman. I just I think it's more psychological. Why I am more, you know? And I feel I felt like, you know, because I did grow up in a time frame and a mother and a father who had two girls to say, you can do everything a man can do. It wasn't you can do anything in this world. It was you could do whatever a man can do, meaning, oh my god, if a man do it, that must be a big achievement. If I so, I started re seeing that, how did you Because we understand the medical side of what you've gone through, what about psychologically, did you have to start thinking differently as a man or was that already existing? Well, it's really interesting you asked that. So as a child, I always I was very tomboy. I was a tomboy like you, blah blah blah. You know, and a lot of people grow out of it, and they, you know, today they're saying, if you're a tomboy, you must be a trans kid, which is so ridiculous and actually scary. So that being it is, it's scary. So that being said, you know, I always felt this masculinity. Getting into high school, I got teased because I was a very masculine girl and I was a gay woman for a while, and I did, oh yeah, I totally because back in the day, I remember, I'm sixty, so this is I'm talking the seventies and eighties where we didn't have any we didn't talk about this, and to be a gay woman is also just as bad as everything else, so you had to hide. I had to hide myself for so many years. It's all here I went. I've gone through ten years of psychology or psychologist for I transition for you, And I wasn't one of the first here in Los Angeles to do that thirty years ago, with no no knowledge, no understanding of it, and That's what I want people to understand. It was life or death for me. I go thirty years old, I transition and I could not live as a woman. As much as I tried to, I could not do it. And as an adult thirty years old, I made that choice. And that's what we need to understand. Children can't make that choice. No, No, And I watched you did a podcast you were talking about that about how young teenagers are going through obviously their identity issues, just like I went through, you went through, and they make a irrational decision that this is the new who I am and I need to transition. And they start the hormones and they start, you know, all the stuff, and then they're like, it was a phase. Oh my god, it was a phase. So when is an actual time for someone to know that? Ready? That's right? What a brilliant question that is? What is it? Who knows? Who knows? How did you? How did I know? You trust yourself? That's it. I went to a massive amount of therapy, and it's what I keep saying to everybody. You've got to put these kids. You can't just give kids medicine. It's coming from their brain. Why are you not sending a kid to mental health care for years before you even touch why would we want to medicalize children. I'm medicalized for the rest of my life, right I can. I have to shoot testosterone every week, I have to work out, I have to look to look this way. It's not natural. Okay, let's talk about it. Let's talk about that right there, because that is a very important thing for people, um like myself that don't understand the world that you live in daily, every minute to minute kind of situation you need to work out. Why does that make you feel more of a man? My ultimate goal? And this is why we need to understand. The trans community is not monolithic. We're not all the same. We come to it for different reasons. You know. Now there's a whole new trans community that says you don't even need to have gender dysphora. You can say your trans and I'm that's actually insulting to a person like me. I have a disorder. Yeah, it's very insulting. So that being said, I do...

...all of this because that's how I want to the world to see me. I can walk down the street. No one would ever think that I used to be a female person ever, ever, you can even get naked and I don't have a penis right because I didn't get that surgery. I can even get naked and people are just like kind of weirded out, like what is that they don't even understand. So the point me is that I want to what we call pass. I want to walk down the world. I want to be a man. I don't want to be a trans person. I don't live as a trans person. I live as a man. You see the difference. This is not an identity choice. This is an actual disorder, a medical disorder that I had to look change myself to look at like a man, so the world sees me. That's the difference between a trans sexual person and a transgender person. Yes, it's important for people to understand you because it's um, it's uncomfortable when we don't know these things and we are sitting with someone as yourself back and we just have so many questions and some people are afraid to ask. That's what I'm here to do, you know, I do that on my podcast. I like to shake the table. I'd like to ask the questions that people are afraid to ask, because honestly, without asking, you're judging. That is so brilliant. Actually, that's brilliant. So we have to ask you because that's that's the way we learn from the other person. That's why I sit here. I'm willing to ask answer every question, even if some people in my community find it to be disrespectful. I'm like, how can a question any disrespectful? Most people are coming to the questions with respect. You're coming to me. It might be uncomfortable for some people, but I want to educate you. I want you to see me as this person so that now we can just move on and we never have to talk about it's done. So you do like that to be a conversation star. You're very open this and this is who I am x y Z and ask me a questions. I'll answer, and then my friend that smoke a joint and move on. And that's right. I just want the world to see me as a person. But because I've been put into this space because of the children, I would never be doing what I do and talking if I didn't see this up swing and young girls. It's not young boys, it's young girls. Four thousand percent upswing four thousand in transitioning young girls. These are girls under the age of eighteen. That's right to feel in your social media social contagion because it became on a sort of cool thing to be transa became fashionably and the test that's like everyone's doing it. Udo get one right, But you know, I'm laughed. But at the same time, I just feel, you know, as as as a dad, you know, who has a kid who's in this age group where kids at ten are coming home and telling their parents are non binary. I'm I'm like, where are they getting this language from? And how does a kid know their non binary? Right? Let's talk about that because we recently saw Damila vada um all over the press. She's so famous, world famous. Um. She came out as non binary and then she decided she wants to change back. And this is all very new to me. So I don't know how if there's like rules, do you know, like because so many people seem to be offended that are in the community. So I'm trying to understand. First of all, I don't understand why does it even need to be announced? And you're teaching me right now, You're saying it's it's something I want someone to know, so we can you know, move past it immediately. Someone like to me, she needs to go to the press and just announced to the world this is who I am, and then within the same year saying no, I am not. Is that leaving a bad and negative impression on the youth. It's and that's why I try to distance myself from that, because they remember when I said earlier, these are identity choices. I did not choose this. This is an actual disorder, and it's why we need to sort of distinguish the fact that some of these kids are identifying as nonbiner, are identifying as trans without doing this type of work, right so they can immediately say oh, never mind, I can say I can't ever say never mind, and neither kind of child that...

...you start putting on medication. So this is why this conversation is important. Those kids are identifying again, I don't care if you identify as a monkey. I really don't care, because you can always go back to identifying as a human unless your army hammer your identifying as a cannibal, which knockols hilarious. Yeah, that's when we got in initiative right on. So DEMI, you know I feel for her. I think you know there's something going on there that we also have to look at. There's some mental illness stuff happening. That is what to talk about. I think a lot of people that live in a little bit in a box assume that anyone who's trans must have psychological and mental health issues. They don't realize there is actually something physically going on, and there is a difference between those who do transition because of mental and psychological issues and those who unnuanly were born with the dysphoria. That's right, So it was Bruce was Bruce Jenner? This is the same. It's a gender dysphoria. He always identified that he needed to be That's right. But again, he transitioned or she transitioned at what age? Forty or fifty years old? Adult? Who cares? That's really how I feel. Anybody who is an adult and can make those This is a life changing. Let's be honest here, life changing. This is not so. Now we have a huge upswinging kids and people young people doing what I did and then de transitioning who have cut off their breasts, who have had hys Direct to me, is at eighteen years old, who you're I'm sterilized from the testosterone. I could you know you can't have babies. How did you have a child? So my wife has the child, so she she's a biological female, so she guys used. So she already had the child when I met her. So I adopted him. Yeah, I adopted him. I got so lucky. And actually we're friends with the biology good dad, so he's in the family too. It's three of us, Yes, have a perfect we are people are jealous of us, jealous And I used a donor. I thought that was the best way to go. No involvement, that's right involvement, because most of the time it doesn't work this way. Yes, I went to him when I first met her and the kid, and I went to him and I said, let's talk, dude. I respect you as the dad. You will always be his dad. There will never ever, I will never take that space from you. And so immediately me and him just hugged and we were like solid with each other. And that was important to me because again, that's you know, this kid needs his actual biological dad, any of his that's right, parents, that's right. Having a ten year old, he said, he's ten. Um, this is a tough h you know, especially I was born and raised in l A and I went to obviously school, ten is around the time where I began rebelling. By the time I was eleven, my drugs started. But it was a lot of constant bullying in school. I'm Persian, I'm harrier, so I had a mustache, I was smaller, I was a tomboy, so of course I was a boy. I was a man. I was flat chested, so um. I was Middle Eastern, so I was a camel or you know. So it was just things started happening at that age, and bullying becomes extremely deep. As a ten year old who has a would I say, stepfeather, is that the stepdad has a stepdad that is very open about his journey. Has he been teased? How is that for a child that's such a good Yeah, he got teases for his long hair. You know, people are always saying things to him. You look like a girl, you look like it, And I'm always like, dude, don't let anyone ever tell you that you know who you are. Boys can have long hair, You can even pay your fingernails. As far as you know what, we could put on a skirt. I don't really care. It still he doesn't not make you a dude, So he doesn't. He only got teased for his hair. But he's so good. He's such a good kid. He's just he doesn't care. Let's it roll off his back. And I think because he sees me that same same way on some you know,...

...both of us, His mom too, were like crazy. He calls us hippie parents. Hippy parents were the best. We're always getting getting stoned. And because I teach him about it, I said, this is this is Dad's medication, because I want him to smell it. When he gets older and he starts maybe wanted to, He's going to remember that smell as Dad's medication, not as a bad negative. My sister has um a fifteen year old and a ten year old, and Um, obviously the fifteen year old, she knows I smoke pot. She's at the age where of course she knows, she knows the smell of it. But they have always known that. I've always called it my medicine. That's because of my medical health and because of the actual science on what this plant does for the body. I am more than proud and happy to always call it a medicine too. And I want my child to know that. My sister, I don't know why she's so tight about it because she used to really smoke pot, but she keeps calling it a drug. She goes, No, I don't want my kids to think rugs are okay. I'm like, which drugs are we talking about? Like where's the drugs? Is that? I don't see any cocaine? Like I can see it, you know what. So it's just you're right, it's about the parenting. And I think it's very important to know because I have a lot of parents out there, mother's, father's grandparents who listened to genuinely g and it really is important how you structure your home and how you raise your children and what they see you do. It's all that they're gonna doesn't matter what you tell them to do, it's only what they see. That's writing. That's so true, my friend, And so we really trying to model that, you know. Just like that's why I tell him, do never do. Don't you ever lie to me? Ever, I don't care if you stole something, you come and tell me or how bad you think it is. So now, I don't know if you know. But in the l a Unified school, district. They're implementing these sort of things where kids don't have to tell their parents if they want to change their name or they want to be a different gender at school, they don't have to tell the parents. So they go to school with this secret. I'm not even kidding look at it. It's actual real thing they're implementing. And my kid goes to a private school, but in the l a unified school, they're literally saying if telling the kid, if you are non binary, or you want to have different pronouns, or you wanta have a different name, we won't tell your parents if you don't want us to. So I'm like, that is teaching kids bad behavior. That's teaching kids to lie to their parents. It's teaching them that there's a reason to hide it. It must be something bad to hide, right on. Unbelievable unless unless they're trying to protect the kids from a hostile home. But that is true. But how many hostile environments do you are do you think there are compared to have great environments. There's more great environments than there are hostile environments. But it's not the place of a school to take over our parents, right the parents, I mean the teacher should be reporting. That's right, that's right. Now we put a teacher in a position of power when we do stuff like that. That is Yeah, it's actually unbelievable that the l A school system is doing that. It's scary. It's scary to trying to figure out what logical sensity even because what you just said. They might have parents who don't want to affirm that. If that's the only part, that's the only thing that's I'm like, but come on, man, some parents want to work through this, you know, they want to take their kids to a psychiatrist and talk about it and and say, you know, it's there's percentage of kids who you just let them be, will desist, will grow out of being trans, will grow look dangerous because it just teaches them to start secretly having sex because now they have a comment, oh captain, my captain situation going there you go. Can you imagine it? It's diverse, it's going to trickle down. It's going to trickle down to other crazy things. Um, preachers daughter is always the biggest slut. That's so true. Sorry to well, it's real, it is right. It's no disrespect to the religion at all. It's actually, Oh my gosh, it's so real.

Wow. We need to just figure out a way to make things acceptable because I don't. And this is what I also don't understand, Like when the Black Lives Matter situation happened before the point where all Lives Matter came in as a negative. My mentality has always been all lives matter. But I didn't understand what it meant to the Black lives that I was saying this to. It was diminishing them. So I don't want to diminish you when I say this. I just see you as another human being. I don't see a gender. And I don't know if that if it insults someone or not. No, I think that's love. You have love in your heart. It means that you don't want me to be different. It means that you accept me as a human being on the face of this earth. That's what my whole messages. We cannot be pushing against people to do things that are not for them or not. You know, you have to let people find their space in the world. Whatever that is, religion, sexuality, gender, I don't whatever it is, right, So my point being is when you say stuff like that, it means you care and it means all you want is the best for people like me. So now and no people get so insulted on the most insane stuff today. Do the titles matter? But if someone, for instance, to me again, i'm non binary, I'm they them, you know, and and it becomes so pronounced that you get scared, oh um, he she know they them, And then at that point you don't even want to have a conversation anymore because you're just you don't even know what you're doing, you're saying. And that's the fault of those people that title yourself. Because it's a new it's a cool thing to be. I really believe non binary. Remember non binary is not a disorder. I have to go to a doctor. If I considered you a man, would you be insulted? No, I live as a man. It's actually compliment. It's a compliment. I don't call yourself a so I live as a man because I want people to understand that I do not remove my biology. Okay, we're we're on a space now in the trampling. I also don't want to insult people to say that that I wasn't born female. I was born female and I know, but it's really important part of the message because they're trying to dismantle this idea that biology is a social construct. No, you're an actual biological women, and all the guys here are biological men. We need to have biology and the picture in order for you to understand why I needed to do this. I just needed for you to see me as a man in the world, and you do. I did my job done. I'm done. But the fact that I have to sit here today and send to all these places because I see children being put in the picture. The only reason I sit and I put my voice out there is because I care about kids, and I don't want kids to be put in a position where maybe in five years they're like, why did I just do that? Why did I remove my breasts? Why do I why did I have a his directed me at sixteen? Now I can never have kids. It's not a joke. It's like people are just turning their head on this, and I'm I refuse to turn my back on this. I just believe this saved my life at thirty years old. Remember, I made the choice at thirty. I did not make the choice at ten. That's a that's a definite Um, I think a primate to have had experienced some parts of life, thank you and sort of come around to maybe see this feels right for me. Maybe this is who I am, and I made the choice as an adult, and so now we're putting that that choice on parents. Can you imagine if they said, well, guess what your kid is trans and then what do you do? You start spinning out because they say, if you don't transition your child, they're going to kill themselves. They say stuff like that. That's not true. They're putting parents in a position to there there's no other option when there is options, there's always options always, they're always always. And with that being sad, we're gonna take a quick break and we back because Buck has for us. We're going to take a quick break. But when we come back, it felt suffocating. And that's when...

I thought, in my lesbian and what's wrong with me? Everyone's a saying that the right one, I sunk yourself with the right one. I want ten of the right ones at the same time. So we were just we were just talking about sex toys and just sweeping out weed and getting involved in the weed business. Um, we both have a very similar passion for cannabis and all of the medicinal aspects of cannabis. How does it help you? Like, what are the medicinal aspects for you? I've insane insomnia, like off the charts insomnia. So I'm sober thirty years. Might be more now from alcohol, and it's a lot. I was actual crackhead. Pipe was homeless crackhead. Oh my god, that's why I'm just like, I enjoyed my life now. Oh my gosh, I'm Valentine's Day. One time sent this to a guy said you were crack to my pirate so gooday, sorry, okay, so you were, so you're you're sober thirty years and I'm also I got clean in two thousand five. Drugs excellent. And a lot of people don't understand from people who say we're sober weed. So what does that mean to you to be sober and smoking weed? So what happened was I started to use those damn sleeping pills pharmaceutical right where everyone's okay with pharmaceutical rights. So I started to, Oh my god, I did weird stuff in my sleep. I just like I would wake up with food in my bed like insane. I'm like, I don't like the serle did that to me. I don't know which, like bones, chicken, but each seeds all the way. I have ransom things in my bed with me. When I was taking Oh my god, no, it's horrible. So I was like, I can't do this. This feels like drugs to me. So my my dude friends like, dude, try cannabis. I'm like, I can't do cannabis. It's a drug. And he's like, you're taking sleeping pills. I'm like, uh, it totally connected. So it was that was it was on. I smoked a joint. I went to sleep for like ever, and I was like cured and ever since then, it's probably been like probably eight or nine years. I've been using cannabis and I'm sober. So people call it California, but I don't care. I'm sober. I don't owe anybody anything. I'm sober in my own space, right, so I know I can't. I don't do crack or cocaine or any of this stuff I was totally hungry for. I don't do any I don't even have a desire to do it. So it's medication. Cannabis is a medication. It is. I love cannabis um. Obviously, I have an autoimmune disease, so it's anti inflammatory helps me significantly. But also I have to do weekly injections of chemotherapy, which that sort of sucks me up, you know, and then I do monthly infusions on where you're sitt in the chair for a of hours. Oh wow, I'm sorry. So it's for me, it's everything, and I'm a little fucking nutty. I'm cookie. I had anger issues, I had a rough past. And again I've been the therapy my whole life, which always was accommodating with medications. Some of the medications were having adverse effects on me, making me crazier, more hyper, eating in my sleep. And then my mom was like, my mom's very Eastern medicine. So she goes, I've done the research the cannabis, He's the way to go. So she found this amazing doctor in Santa Monica, Dr Alan Frankel. He was an m D who had his license stripped from him because he was giving cannabis to with patients. But then cannabis became legalized in California. Unfortunately, uh, Dr Frankel just passed away and I was able to get a podcast with them before he passed. But he was my doctor for many years, and he broke down to me what this plant,...

...this plant really is to a hundred and fifty different aspects. At this plant, not just what people think of teach c and now everyone thinks CBD is the core. Like, way do you guys hear about cb G A that's right? Okay, way do you hear? So? I see it in so many ways as amazing and it just makes me a better, more content person and has a less than nine percent addiction, right, you know, So it's like, come on, you see that something is natural healing. It's much better than a little fucking pill you're taking. But we're fighting against the pharmaceutical companies, right, that's why it's that's right, And that's why even California cannabis is a mess, I mean all of it. To do it, it's so difficult, like it's just all, oh my god, it's insane. You can't even it's so hard to keep a business afloat in this horrible But they're so dumb. It's bad business. They can be making so much money, they're dumb. I mean, they're so stupid. The jobs they could create, the businesses they could create. In Mexico is fully legalized in cannabis. Interestingly, you cannot buy or sell in Mexico, but you can smoke weedy. You gotta like imaginary and you can get into them. But that's how the cartel. You know, obviously it's working, but that's also how we get cannabis in our black market. So I feel like I'm listening. I'm a conspiracy theorist, so I don't want anything to do like ce I is going to can kill me on my seat right now because I said something, but it's true. So we were talking cannabis and then we started talking about sex toy So you were in PARTN and then you got into the sex toy business, and I'm in the sex tweed business. Now what was it like when you got into the sex toy business? So when I did it, I created the first transgender sex toy in the world. So it never existed before. What is what is? So it's called the buck off and they just stop shot the door right on. So it's a stroker, it's a masturbate stroker, and it's a stroker for transgender men. Right, so I can get a little graphic, but I'm not sure if it's very comfortable. So basically, you know, the clearest grows from the testosterone, so yeah, it grows like a little baby penis. It's weird. It's actually so bizarre what happens to your body. And so this thing slips over the clearest, so you're you're, you know, masturbating like a man. So it makes you feel like very masculine. And a lot of guys like me didn't masturbate because we're so weirded out by our bodies. And I wanted to encourage masturbation by creating a product so you don't have to touch your sock, and it blew up. It became one of the fastest selling sex toys. I did that five years ago, and then from there, I just started creating more products. So I created like, you know, coch rings and lubrication and all consists specifically for the trans but now I'm moving into the female marketing. Yeah yeah, we should definitely yes that because beautiful market and you know, the trans market is very small. But so I lived as a woman for half my life and I live as a man, so well that's the thing. It's like my I'm so far I've only made toys for vaginas I should say, I don't want to say women, but um but I mean someone was like convenues. I was like, I guess, of course they can stimul I can do like yeah, but it's like there's so many different humans out there that just desires differently. So that is incredible. Thank your friend. Yeah. So that just blew up for me. And then I just started, you know, being in that market, which is amazing. I love creating and all kinds of cool products and just thinking ahead of you know, different types of bodies are so innovative, Thank you friend. Yeah. Progressive in a thoughtful because you're seeing something that is beneficial to that's so it's more wellness. I like to call it a well...

...in this products. The same with cannabis. To meet cannabis is wellness. They're all wellness and putting them together to create products for for And I think the female market is underrepresented a lot, and I was hoping to do that to my ex boyfriend Dennis. A lot of people have seen Dennis on my podcast and you know on social media. He's been in the industry sex industry for about twenty five years. He started out in the porn industry. He was the largest porn production company in America, huge, and then you know, DVDs didn't exist anymore, and you know he fell out. Now he's back and he's in the toy business. He has a huge, huge distribution. So he has Pink pussy Cat. Yeah, yeah, he's pretty big. He's like, listen, all I have is porn stars. You are a single mother, you're educated, you are relatable, excellent. Why don't you reach out to a demographic of women that don't feel comfortable necessarily buying that box with the porn stars? Right? And you know someone that's more of like, oh, she's a single mom's right, you know, even though the toy might be the same different, No, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because you're marketing to They're going to trust you because you're interesting. I don't want to use the word normal, but you're just part of that. You're like them. And that's why I when I saw that you made a sex Toice, I was like, I love you even more because it's so important that a woman like you who's not in the porn business. But it's just saying, look, masturbation and pleasing ourselves is very important, and I came out recently with being polyamorous. You know, I I accept her in my life. To me, I, I don't know if I haven't selting you. It felt like I was coming out of the closet when I When I I was like, oh my god, I'm not crazy. I thought something was wrong with me my entire life. There's something wrong with me that I can't be in these normal relationships. It felt suffocating, and that's when I thought, in my lesbian and my dress, what's wrong with me? Everyone says you haven't met the right one. I go funk yourself with the right one. I ten of the right one time, me saying you can have a child on your own, you can build your own relationship dynamic on your own. Why not just have orgasms on your owners. No encouraging masturbation because, as we know women, women aren't taught that. You know, your vagina is beautiful, sex is beautiful. Please yourself before you please others. Women are taught the opposite of what men are taught. So I just want to commend you, thank you so much for doing that. It means a lot. No, it does It means a lot to me because I am really pro sex and and I think sex really helps people be. I'm a happy person because I have a lot of sex. Yeah, I don't have any sexba yes, God bless my products. I haven't had sex in maybe every year. At this time, you're going to get a lot of TSW three. It's okay, No, no, no, it's okay, it's okay. It's actually being I'm not getting attracted to men so easily. More like I get what is the word for those who are high stand you know, it's like it's a word. It's like something that we get. You get sexually aroused by someone who's extremely intelligent. There is a word for word, and it's like something. Yes, I'm exactly very very aroused by a brain intellect. I don't care what the person looks like. And I have not come across a smart person. That's saying a lot. Really, Maybe you and I can hang out and don't meet some of your friends. You need someone you're you got, you got someone I can't introduce you. Of course we're cool people. Are you kidding? If you know what I mean? Thank you, thank you, thank you so much, thank you. Here where can the whole world find you? And where can someone if they need some motivation from you and to hear you talk because you have a podcast, you do a lot of speaking, You do a lot of educational and informative speaking. So where can everyone find you if they want to know? Thank you so so. I'm pretty much Buck Angel. Everyone our...

Twitter, Instagram, I have my YouTube channel buck Angel, and I'm you know, I'm on the I'm on the TikTok, but I'm not really liking it. Don't get me started nicked off. Like on the third day for some reason, I was just blowing smoke weed smoke out of my mouth and they banded Mela TikTok. It's for the kids. I know I have to tread lightly on there, but you know you're awesome. Thank you so much and thanks for all you do and put out. Love to have you back on and may thank you and I can co host and have some guests together because you and I have a lot in comment and it would be very fun to continue conversations with you. Thank you, Frank, you for being here. Thank you Sho joining Let's do it. Thanks for listening to genuinely gig download new episodes every week and if you haven't already, subscribe and be sure to leave us a rating and review, and while you're at it, check out some of the other great shows available on straw Hunt Media.

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