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Sobriety and More With Eric Roberts & Jennifer Gimenez

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

This week GG and Anita sit down with Academy Award-nominated actor, Eric Roberts. Listen in as they discuss sobriety and all of its variations. While on the topic of sobriety, they also bring in actress, model, and reality TV star, Jennifer Gimenez. You can watch the video version of the episode on GG's Instagram! From Straw Hut Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

STRAWT media. Hey y'all, welcome to another episode of genuinely GG. I'm here with my girl, Anita. Dude, what did you just call me? Gege, why, I was I always called a Gigi. I've never called you. Yeah, you're doing always kind of GG, like G G G, G G G GD. You call me gg more. Everyone else calls you gold as I guess. I don't cosmicalness. What do you want me to call you? I can't. I that's quite gig. I like, I like Geeje, but I don't like when you call me Gigi. I don't know, it's just so impersonal. No, that's more personal. That's like my little nickname for you that you know where. You made it, our little and you made it. It was your nigh was from Shaws of Senate, say, and you start to call me Gee, Gee. That's I think that's what it is. It's like I met you literally, when I met you through Ressa while we were filming the show. So it's as kind of each other because of the show. So so, anyways, I don't know. Anyways, Oh my God, oh m Gigi. Can I go? Oh mgg you can say, Oh, I am Gig, looking okay, I can say Oh, Mgg, I can say that. Yeah, okay, because I can't say gig anymore. So to say like, yeah, I know you can't. Ama Goldensa, why are you wearing your wedding band and all I ask. You can ask if you want. Did just something happened that I don't know about. I know everything, but are you kidding me? Well, no, you're just Su're not. You're just wearing it because it's a beautiful diamond. I love it. Yeah, yeah, I need a barrow that sometime. Girl, now's The Times, the time I'm not sharing is carrying. It's mine. Let's see it on your hand. Holy Shit, Oh my God, that looks so good on you. Oh, you need a ring on your finger, but not tied to a man, just to ring on sirring finger. Yeah, that's how I have tied to you, you know. And this we can get like matching diamonds. We this is the head of the traveling rings. Yes, this is what best friends do for each other. So I don't you buy the ring and we can actually are that right? Good, okay, and every ring back. Okay, interrupt. So let's go back to what you were getting just saying rings. Let's talk about the ultimate, ultimate ring collector of them all, one of my idols and is Jlo. She's officially back with Ben it's like official. It's official, like there's pictures of them in Miami Kissing. It's like official. So there's was not official. Huh, first it wasn't official and now it's official. Official, I think it was like unofficial because they were just seen together, okay, and they were holding hands, but it could be like misconstrued that. It's like they're just two friends with how I'm supported. Yeah, that that whole show. So I feel like it was not official, but now you're kissing, you're making out, it's legit. You know. There's this photo of him that it was worrisome to me, though. There's this photo of him. Okay, so she's there in this house in Miami. There's a photo of her. She's off doing yoga, like in the courtyard or different part of the place, and he's off to the other side smoking cigarettes, but like really like like a smoker, like you know, like someone who's a smoker, and we know that Ben Affleck has a history with addiction and alcoholism and whatnot. So I got a little weird and and and and worried because I was like Oh, because I was so excited that they were back together, but then I was like when I saw that, my holy Shit, because when he was with the other Jennifer, you know, Baby Mama Jennifer Garner, or his wife. Yeah, he had a bunch of sobriety rehab issues and there's even photos in two thousand and eighteen where she's driving the car like tossing him a trash bag, like he's in the Bagley, taking him to Rehap to they leave him and it was like one of those final moments situation. And then I see Jlo, who just exudes health and fitness and youth and beauty, and, you know, I'm like, I'm trying to understand this, this balance between this guy who's just really going in on that cigarette, sitting in a chair, a little bit of a pot belly, and then this chick on the background doing yoga, you know, five hundred years old looks like she's ten. You know what I pay? I'm trying to figure out, is this a rebound for her? There is an intense history that's there. So it's a little dangerous when there's those sub situations. But I'm kind of worried for been because there was something I read that Ben said before in an interview because of his rehab stuff. He said, well, they call it a disease of chronic relapse, so there's no way to know. It's important to be mindful that the whole key to sobriety is recognizing that the potential for relapse exists. He then says for me, I've noticed my relapses have been...

...associated with feeling like I was all better. I'd say to myself, it's not really a problem anymore, I can have a drink like a normal person. I'm fine now, and that's probably when his relapse typically, you know, would hit. So I feel like there's so many different types of sobriety and there's different addicts. I feel like I went to Rehab for hard drugs, you know, in two thousand and five I did a hundred and twenty days in Rehab. I did my time. I came out some years later I started drinking alcohol and I wasn't a heavy drinker ever. I didn't become a heavy drinker until things started getting really heavy in my life. My Ra got really bad and painful and I started picking up the bottle and painkillers. So I sort of didn't call that a relapse because I didn't have that issue. Most people in sobriety might call that a relapse. are like, well, it's one another form, but to me I didn't. I'm like it was a new form of addiction, it was a new form of needing it. I needed drugs before for different reasons that I needed now that alcohol. So I got over that whole situation and now I can have an occasional drink and it's not an issue. I smoke my pot. It doesn't affect me and lead me into how their drugs. So I feel like it's really an interesting topic of a conversation to see who gets affected and how. And you know, for Ben Affleck, I hope this is not something that, you know, they fall in love again and there's a break up and there's a relapse. But on the topic of sobriety, I'm excited to go ahead and introduce our guests, because that's what they're here for. It to really have that conversation what sobriety looks like and different addicts worlds. You know, you know her from shawls of sunset you know, she doesn't hold back. I started using drugs when I was very young and it took a large part of my life. You know, I checked into Rehab when I was about twenty five years old. So a large part of my life went to drugs and hard drugs. This is genuinely GJ my first guest as a model, actress, Reality Television Personality and, very importantly, she's an addiction recovery outvocate that also practices sobriety. We saw her as brandy glanville's friend on real housewives at Beverly Hills, but to many others she was known as the model who checked herself into celebrity Rehab with Dr Drew. We watched her evolved into all the things that she had manifested in by becoming sober, and she now tries to help thousands who are battling addiction. Please give a genuinely gg welcome to Jennifer, you menace. Hi, Jennifer, how are you you? Thank you so much for having me on. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being here. I'm going to get right into an introduce our next guest as well, because our next guest has a smile that can warm up an entire room. He is an actor that has graced every screen around the world. He has received a Golden Globe nomination for the lead role in the nineteen seventy eight film king of Gypsies, with another two Golden Globe nominations for Films Star Eighty and runaway train, which he was also nominated for an academy award. Cocaine and cannabis caused a few legal problems as well as domestic issues, and in nineteen ninety five, it was his actions on his family that led him into sobriety. After proving to his family that he's a better person because of cannabis, his wife and Stepson could not help but notice that what he's saying is true and that cannabis is in fact a medicine. I really don't need to introduce this man anymore, because you guys already know who he has. He is the amazing Mr Eric Roberts. Welcome, M Derek Roberts. Hi, hello, hello, hello, so good to be here. Thank you. How are you, guys? Well, this is my co host and need to go high. I've been here to me you, guys. She helps me. Can She helps me get the was going were very different. We've been friends from many, many years and our difference is sort of make it interesting for us to have conversations, and I like to really shake the table a little bit with certain conversations that I think a lot of people maybe are a little too nervous to discuss, and I really wanted to discuss with you guys, is what sobriety looks like in different people's minds and in different people's lives. I myself have a sober story as well. I started using when I was about eleven and a half. It was, you know, I was younger than most of the kids my age. I have an older sister and she sort of was like you're gonna, you know, come across this at one point. So she forced my house over a bomb and I took the hit and then from there on it was I'm going to be cool like my big sister. So I started buying it and that turned into coke and that turned into x and that turned to this and that's in this and then I went to Rehab, but I smoke pot. So I feel...

...comfortable calling myself sober because those drugs were the things that I did, but I feel a lot of people get upset and offended when I call myself sober because I still smoke pot and might have an occasional glass of wine or two. So I would love to Jennifer, let's start with you, if you can explain to me what sobriety is to you. I thank you so much for being so honest and so open about this, because I think it's important that we all have this communication and that we have it's open conversation. I feel like there's so many roads to recovery. There's not just one path. I am absent free and I'm fifteen plus year sober. However, imaginations amazing in this day and age. You know, my husband and I are recovery advocates and we speak and we educate people and he had a documentary on a and e and like we talked all about recovery and substance abuse and mental health issues, and I feel that with so many people dying right now, what happens to the other ninety percent of people that are dropping dead because we can't say that they're on the road of recovery? You know, there's ten percent of people that will make it absinent stree right and then the other ninety. What are we doing? You know, we're not. We're not having this conversation, saying my husband I were actually talking about this last week openly on on our show and we were talking about like, you know, what about the ninety percent? You know I have. I'm a a long Holler from covid and I have a lot of chronic pain, like this chronic pain that I can't I've been to so many doctors. I get I've the infusions. I have the ability right now to to see doctors and see which way to go. There was a time about three weeks ago we were in Florida and I was in so much pain. In one week I was in go to hospital three different times and we did the mouth and I said, you know, they're going to give me opiates and Moreph you want to go in there because I'm in pain. Then they're going to give me a bottle of prescription more for you know, drugs or something of opium. It's and then what? Like it's going to help, but then what happens? I can easily get booked on it, you know. And my husband looked at me and he said, Babe, if you need to smoke weeds and do it or take to you know, CBD or with with TEACHC in it. And I looked at him and I was like that option is a lot better than getting hooked on opiates, you know, and then possibly getting right and die. Any right, I ended up getting CBD and I ended up doing other ways and I didn't. I didn't do that. But I have to have an open conversation with a myself and other people about this, you know, and you know my drug or choice was cocaine, but I was kind of like a trash can. I did anything and everything just because I needed to numb my pain. What once we deal with our TRAUMAS, then life is a little different, you know. And and so my outlook on recovery. You know, I'm a twelve steps help me, and they a bit. I've evolved in the last fifteen years. You know, I've in you know I've implemented many different things through the years, like drum circle, this and that. You know, I the infusion. You know, there's many different ways of getting sober today. So I think that we can't just put a label on it. Now, me going and doing heroin and and and doing math, because I was a coke addict. Doesn't mean like I'm so much. Do you know what? Right, right, right, right, right, you know, things to better myself, you know, and in one way, I think you know. It's just a different time today, you know, and so many people, specially after covid you know, so many people, are dying not just from drug addiction but from mental health and blowing their brains out. And if there's a way that we can have, you know, people, we can help people, then let's go for it and let's talk about that. I agree. I agree. That was very well sad. Thank you for that, Jennifer Eric. What about you? How do you categorize your sobriety? I don't, because I'm not sober. So I would not. I would not be as salting to everybody who is. I I will smoke marijuana, yes, I I've never a big drinker, so that was ever an issue. And my the last time I did lots of cocaine would have been nine ninety one, nineteen, ninety, nineteen, ninety one. I think I never saw the drug again after one thousand nine hundred and ninety two or three, I don't remember now, but it was a long time ago and but pot pot. What Pot did for me was I have no anxiety when I when I do potted and I have real anxiety issues, which is a problem for an actor. But the problem I have is if I get stoned and then I act, I don't talk well. So guy don't I don't speak well on intoxicans. So I can't get high and then work. So it does, it does. It does really anxiety, but not in the work the process. I have to find out myself,...

...but he said the the personal self. It does. It does do a lot for me in that in that neighborhood of no anxiety, and that, to me, is the issue. Anybody has it anything really and if we can just get rid of that right can all be friendly. Yeah, I agree. I see it in so many different realms as well. I see what Jennifer saying is a reality. I see where you're saying, Eric, and then there's my reality and then everyone else's reality. So you can't really put a label to it. It's designed so uniquely for each person. But I still sort of consider myself sober, and I don't know if I'm offending anyone by saying that, because I started using drugs when I was very young and it took a large part of my life. You know, I checked into Rehab when I was about twenty five years old. So a large part of my life went to drugs and hard drugs. So it's for me to buy feel about. I'm I'm also sober, you know, because of all the things I did in my youth that the build. It only smoking pot. I do feel sober. But yes, you know, we we would be yelled at to the nth degree at an am. Yes, yes, yes, all, it's a twelve step room and they're not open right now, so that doesn't really matter. On that another like, I really want to say to you guys that I think that if that's if you feel, believe that you're sober, the and your sober, you know what I mean, like you're not shooting up right now. You're not like in a corner, like, you know, trying to Numb your pain like I. I really have had a different outlook recently because I've been all like, you know, you got to get it before I was, and I'll be the first to admit sobriety is this way right, but like that, because that's what the twelve step program taught me. But Sobriety, isn't that my true my true experience? I started trying to get sober when I was twenty one years old. Brandy, by the way, Glanville, put me in treatment with my mom, like she stuck by me. But and then I I'm forty four, I'm not so I liked I didn't get sober towenty, you know, I didn't stay sober so like I didn't know. You know, once I got sober, fifteen plus years ago, I it took me seven years. In seven years into my sobriety, I realized that I was sexually assaulted by my doctor because I had a blackout disassociation from that, like, you know, my God ecologists like it, and I just recently been talking very publicly about that, you know, and talking about like being you know, these things happened. They come to me through the years, like just recently I found something else out. With all this me to and all these other things that are coming out, like more stuff is come being revealed to me. How am I supposed to go out and be like accident free? I think that I have a team. Now I'm going to tell you I'm very grateful and I very blessed I have a team, I doctor, that people on the you know, that I have mentors and all that. Not a lot of people have that opportunity or that ability of having that or feeling that safe in play races where they can talk about this stuff. Like I didn't know how to process this, you know. But again, I'm going to say for the people out there, there's some people that have the ability of getting that, but then there's not. You know, I'm like, medication is going to help me, like I would want to smoke weed, you know, like with the anxiety that I go through, like, you know, I can only breede do them enough meditation and breathing, you know, to last so much. You know. So I believe that, you know, if we're not doing things and we're not getting out of control with it, and like something like, you know, marijuana, for example, like I don't find it to be a bad thing, but can I say one thing? Can we not call it marijuana because the government gave it that name just to affiliated with Hispanics and whatnot? Let's just call a cannabis or we eat or pad or whatever, because it's just a bad name for it. I think sorry, sorry, absolutely need know. That's a thing. It's like, I we don't know. I didn't. I don't know. That like it gives it a stigma to it, you know, and it's like being open to learn, you know, and that's what where we're at right now, that we just need to be open to accept acceptance, acceptance, acceptance with with other, for each other, not and not to make it all about this, but you know, cannabis has always been cannabis. It's always been a very light high and very, you know, convenient, easy to do, easy to get rid of, easy to partake of, and but it was it was rivaling on cotton at the turn of the twenty century as a fabrics, as a useful thing to have, and is rivaling cotton and the cutton industry. I was told, said, guys, we got do we have to you rid of him, and it said, no problem. Do what this would is called the class one drug because you you get high on okay, great, dude, you do that like like heroin? Yeah, like heroin. Great, and they got rid of pot. That's that's what happened. It wouldn't about getting high, it was about it was about industry. I wanted to go back on something that actually Eric that you said. So I agree with you. I have a lot of anxiety and...

...my life and and Gonnessa be like one of my best friends. She's trying to get me to smoke weed to calm me down and to, you know, get this anxiety out of me, and I agree with you. You can't function and you can't do your lines and movies on set when you're but so that's kind of my biggest argument with her, because she's I'm different now because I'm not a consuming it once or twice a day. I'm up at five am, by six am, my first joint is in my mouth. My last joint leaves my mouth by midnight when I'm ready to go to bed. So I have trained my bottom of endearing. But I do you know what? I have an autoimmune disease. So I have been under chemotherapy for almost thirteen years now. I inject myself once a week in the stomach. It's been my life. It's something I accepted. But it got to a point where, same as a Jennifer, my mom said, we have to figure out an alternate route to this, and that's one. She went and found this specific doctor, Dr Allen Frankel, and he's an MD, and he taught me about cannabis as a medicine and then I began researching and I never stopped and then I have multiple companies because of it, because it changed me. So after about a year and a half, almost two years, of me consuming cannabis, my doctor said you're in remission. So yes, I use it and I use it aggressively, but it's giving me a natural healing that the constant throwing up a hundred times a day, my eyelashes are falling out, my hair can't hold extensions because it's two weeks or it falls out. It's worth it to me. It's worth it. I don't wonderful story. I loved hearing thank you. I'm flattered. Prof coming from you is but yeah, so I you know need it. Has Been Open about taking PROZAC to help and I'm very much against prosact specifically. I'm not against Western medicine. I think it helps for people who need it, but I do believe that cannabis can help a lot of her other issues as well, and I've read quite a bit about you, Eric as well, that you know it has helped you with your anger issues and I have a lot of anger issues myself, and she knows, my life has transformed very I mean I was I didn't have an issue with anger issues. I had an issue with anxiety and I really took care of that. For me, like really does, and I I love my life because of pot. Even are not high it it. It maintains a balance form right. So it does so even when you're just overall, has helped you see, even when you're not, you know, let's say you don't do we have to still felt every day to have the benefits from it. You can smoke pot, you know, once every other day, just a little bit, and and main maintain that balance. Yeah, that's right. That's why. Because our bodies have an endocannabnoid system. So when we do smoke it, it latches on, you know, and it's on our faces. Rating now called vaporizing, so you don't even have to smoke. So let me ask you guys something, because we're talking about addiction. You are. I want to know individually if you guys believe addiction is a disease. I believe in the the big book, the the the big book for a a has all the answers to any kind of addiction there is in any kind of undertaking of taking control of your involvement in addiction. It's got all the answers, I know, and it works. It works for everybody every time if you commit. So I have to I have to lean on them and say they call it a disease and I have to agree with them. I don't look at it as a disease. I like at it as a disorder, but that's just me, it's just personal. You can, you can, you can call it what you want. I don't see it as a disease, but that's just me personally. The the big book does, and I am a lover of that book. So I would have to agree with whatever they say. I have to say I agree with you. I believe. You know, I mean, I love that you call it a disorder. I do believe it's hereditary. It's a gene. You know. There's a difference, though, on this for me is that my husband's in recovery. Is so both of us say. We're both, you know, twenty years old and were, you know, our ten year, twelve years old, and you know he's he comes from no trauma. His family's very open and you know, they have communication skills and all this. I have no communication skills. I have a lot of trauma. We both take that first drink. The chances of me becoming an addict are higher than him, for example. Right you may go toy with it for a little while, but then he gets back on the road because he has coping skills. I don't. So, given that, you know, I do believe that disorder, that disease, progresses and it gets worse. Like my first drink was I twelve. I didn't know about addiction,...

...recovery, disease or anything like that. I just knew it made me feel like a cross change, giant, wonder woman and she rare, like I felt at that moment with that first ring, not knowing that, like I was invincible and the progression of my disease led me to everything and anything else. So I do believe it's a disorder, disease, disease. I believe it's hereditary, but I also believe that there is there is hope for those who have the families have changed things around and broken that cycle and given with their children. That doesn't mean that the children grow up and be a full sledge, alcoholic drug addict. You know, you and I might have similar schooling and the feelers, because I went to Lmu for my Kaidak and I think you, you know, you do help and start a stuff like that. Ray You doing stuff like that with yeah, so I went to Lmu specifically to study addiction treatment, especially with a dual diagnosis people. So when it came to the addiction as a disease model, that was when the the program separated and you figured out who's calling it a disease and who's calling it a choice. After I went through that process, I had an amazing professor and my course was for choice theory and I understood, to my understanding, that it is not a genetic thing. But what it is is that some people have a genetic propensity that's lower of d two receptors, and those dtwo receptors, when we lack them, it causes impulsivity and people who are impulsive are more bound to addiction and meeting things. It's an impulsive thing. So yes, you know, trying to structure a child and understanding maybe they lack a little d too receptors because they're a little fisy. I wish my parents knew that about me. We're going to take a quick break, but when we come back, I'm so I'm like the biggest nerd. I've never tried any type of drugs except hot I don't think that. Yeah, mushrooms, you have to try much idea, Eric. Will you do it with me? All right, chaperone it. So you know, I think that once you do understand, it's about becoming parents, and I think I decided to wait. I'm close to forty, I'll be forty in a couple months, and I decided to wait a while in order to have a child and I went the unconventional route. I got a sperm donor because I was at a point in my life where I was ready for it. I got my shit together, I got my mind together, I was happy, I was healthy, I was good, and so it's up to me now, as that parent, to sort of understand if my child is lacking those dtwo receptors that causes impulsivity or draws them towards an addiction or addictive personality. Gambling, sex, you know all those things. So you know it's I my my my point of it is that it's a choice more than a disease toy. You know me and I think environmental, environmental of ours, of course important. Structure is a big deal. You know I think structure is so important and how we have that. But it's an interesting conversation to talk about sobriety, getting clean because right now, like you said, Jennifer, it's we're living in a new age. We're talking about people who were about to legalize MDMA. People are legalizing, you know, mushrooms. I like, wait, what? What? Did I go to Rehab before? Because that was a lot of money down the draining. If all these things are legal now, hurt that really they're going to legalize in DMA? I'm sorr. I'm like the biggest nerd. I've never tried any type of drugs except pot. I don't think I call you have trying mushrooms. You have to try mushroom. I did, Eric what you do it with me already chaperone it mushrooms and like in like thirty years. But but but when walk down memorily, I recommend them from my memory of them. Oh my gosh, I think interesting stuff. Well, you know, it's really funny. I wouldn't my husband and I I'm gonna go back to when my husband and I we got really sick with covid and my girlfriend, brandy, was like she called me and like you know, this is a girl has been through the ringer with me right, like my ride or die, and she's like listen, Jed, and I'm on dead, like we had the highest ray we were. We were like close to death for eight weeks. It was brutal right. And she calls me, she's like this is a fucking freebe. Just fucking do it. Do whatever you need to do to get high. Do whatever, drink, do whatever you need to get through this. Right, and I'm a husband. I were like, Damn, we should just do mushrooms like once, just once before it's all set and done. If we're died less fucking go out to mushroom. But we didn't do it. But come on, I actually seen mushrooms. I Miss Cocaine. I missed the DRIPS. It's kind of grows super wheel. But yeah, Alohol, like I could. I mean I don't know. I always say if I could, I what. I just can't, so I don't. It's easier said the...

...wife. For me it's it makes it simple for me. I think I got ripped off when I did mushrooms. I think someone actually just cooked some actual like those big fat mushrooms and just told me you must of Bellable, because nothing happened to me, and I still just think I got a super high tolerance. But I was like, I just feel like normal but buzzed. Maybe I'm buzz but I'm not. But I was like, I don't think I've ever done it. If that's the case, because nothing happened to me. I don't know. They're definitely happen. You haven't done them. Yeah, is that she gets? She got screwed, she got the YEA. Well, Wen'll be my first time I got screwed. Eric, what led you? I know you're one thousand days of self impost prohibition of cannabis. was more so for you to show your family that cannabis is not a negative thing in your life, that it is something that you feel is aiding you again, because you said you have anxiety. How did you come up with this concept of the one thousand days? Why One thousand days? Why not? Want to be the the the presentation is wrong. I didn't have to show my family because my family is the HIPPS. Smartest, most aware, most tuned in. Is kind of behavior of any family you've ever you've ever hung around. So I don't have to anything up for their for their acceptance or understand their rate. All of them by themselves, every member of them, are fantastic. No, I did it to to see and I I like gave myself that number of thousand days because it's a dramatic figure and it's also not a month, that's not three months, it's it's a thousand days. It's IT'S A lot. It's about three years. It's it's a real group of time and it it also sounds very dramatic. So when you get up to my nine hundred days, you're doing something yet and so you know. It's also the presentation of thousand days sounds cool. I was just doing it to it to find out if I could, and I could, and I can and and I will again, I'm sure, and it's just it's it. Do when you did do when you're one thousand days? I don't know. You did say you have an occasional drink or something, do you? Did you say everything drink? I'm not a drink. You're not drink it all. Do you drink at all, Jennifer, or that was your doc your druggo chois alcohol, that that was your big thing? I don't think at all. I haven't taken anything mine altering on my own at all. When you guys hear about people like Drew Barrymore, for instance, who went through such intense, you know, drug situations, alcohol situations, and now she has her own wine brand and she drinks and she says she finally got to this place where she can. I mean, you know, I don't know, because I don't think I can ever. Do you know cocane again? I don't think I can. I think I would. I don't know what I would do if I I don't know. So I wouldn't even test myself for something like that, you know. So I find that interesting. You know, when people do that, do you guys ever wonder like what did that person have? You know when, Jennifer, when you say I can't do that for myself, what did that person have that they could so? For me, like I said, I started getting Sob when I was twenty one years old. I start going into the twelve step rooms and you know what I would do is I would clean up really quick right and I'd start getting everything back, the jobs men by or whatever, and that whole inside would I suffer from as a spiritual malady in and that whole that Voy just got bigger and bigger on the out, in the inside and on the outside I met everything. I call it shiny and pretty. I just made it all look okay, but meanwhile I'm dying on the inside, like I didn't know how to communicate the way I am right now, and it took the spirit for me to get spiritual schools, learn to have vocabulary, understand why I was feeling what I was feeling and doing all that and recovery. Every time. I'm a crow. I was a chronic relapser. I would get sober, I'd get a job and then I'd relapse again. I get a guy, whatever it was, and like nothing was fixing that whole inside. So when I ever in every now and then I'll be like a gloss of wine, sounds good, like. First of all, I don't. I wasn't a wine dring really, I don't like the taste. Well, I'll drink it. I drink it, and they am of course I drink anything that came my way, but I wouldn't even know how to order a class of wine at at a restaurant or anything. And like a couple years ago I'm like God, you know, smoking a joint on the beach, listen to Bob Marley, sounds so cool. Like when I spoke cannabis before, back in the day, I was just paranoid, schizophrenic. I'd be like, Oh my God, that shadow like. So I really realistically wouldn't be on the beaches in a Bob Marley chill and smoking weed, like yeah, that's not who I am. However, I know that that one drink leads me to my drug of choice and everything in between. And again today, in this day and age, you take one, you don't know what you're buying out there. You think you know that drug dealer and...

...they're giving you sentinel in everything I know. I have seen people, I've witnessed it. The last eight and a half years of my life I have dedicated my life to speaking all across the country, working with other attics, people with mental health. I have been in the trench and like I have been. My husband and I have been doing this and then we finally teamed up together and we're doing it together. But let me tell you, I have seen people that I love drop dead and died from that one pill, that one line, that one injunction, and they're gone. They have no future. And, and that's my fear. Is Me, Jenny sober today, I don't think. I don't know what I'm buying out. They're like, why would I even want to try it? So like that, one drink, let our drug, leads me to everything and anything else. What's fascinating, though, our people like drew Barmore, who? Who? Who? Who went through the twelve steps and has decided that I'm going to drink now. So she's drinking and she not a drunk, right, but she's having a drink whenever she wants one and she's saying it's okay with her right, and she has her own show. Now that's a huge responsibility. If you had any idea the the the pressure and responsibility and the stuff you have to deal with as the host of a talk show, Oh my God, it's a headache. I wouldn't want the job for love, no money, but it's a big responsibility. Obviously she's cool, right. So, so there are ways around what Aa tells you. Now, AA I have to say as someone who is, who's not an alcoholic by a definition. But but AA is always right. They never fail anybody. So you have to give that book credit. But but there are exceptions, like drew bear Moore, and I do believe, also to kind of add on to what you're saying, I believe that there are people out there that are problem drinkers. They deal with a problem and they no longer have like a drinking problem. They can go out there and do their things. That I actually know Drew Barrymore and I worked with her years ago and Charlie's angels and I got to tell you, I mean I've hung out with her back in the day. That woman is a powerhouse and handles everything is to so cool, cooling, but amazing things to say about her. And to know that she had a problem in know back then too, and then that she no starts do all the stuppen drinking. Just find like she's taught with her issues. You know, and I'm not saying everyone's like that right, but I just know that if I were to take that dreach, I don't know, every time I relapse it was that I maybe I'm not a drink you know, problem drink everybe I'm not enoholic and sure enough, for me my experiences, I am a problem trier. So I just choose not to do it. Good girl. Yeah, that's what it comes down to. I think what you said in the beginning of the PODCAST was there's no way to label it because it looks different and everybody's eyes, and I think it's okay. I think as long as you are doing what you think is protecting yourself at all costs and your sanity and your happiness and your peace and your family's happiness and their peace, then it's okay. Whatever it looks like, it's okay. I I really am so grateful to have both of you guys on. I'm thank you guys so much for being here. I would love to like pick your brains about so many things for so long. So I hope that I went into you guys one day soon when we get to do that, but for now, thank you so much for being here on genuinely gig. Thank you. Thank you, guys. And we're going to kind of lighten up the mood a little and this is a, you know, the fun part of the the podcast. We'd like to play a little game with you guys, and it's called forgive me, I have sinned, and so just, you know, just a fun question I'm going to ask. It's one question for both of you guys. Okay, so I will start with I guess what this one all we'll go with Eric First. So what's the funniest thing you have ever seen or done on a movie set? Oh God, I have to think about that or I do a lot of practical jokes, so I'd have to think about that. What's a funny thing e racine or done on a movie set? Have you ever fallen like on accident and hurt yourself? Or many times? Oh my God, I do that every day. Ha Ha ha, funny. I wish my wife with me and she she could remind me of let me see. Oh God, such a great question, because they're bout to me some great stuff. I can give you, guys. You, you, you go first. I'll think. Okay, got Jennifer to never okay, okay, so there's two. I guess it's all more from the one. So I get blow the movie and the irony of that, and I'm working at Johnny Depp and my character and blow has an't a fairy, Johnny Depp's character, George Young, and we have to it's my...

...first day on this, on the movie set and on on set, and we have to establish that I'm getting married at that in the movie. I've already gotten engaged, but we have to stablish that. You know, we're doing coke. It's s that up. Yes, all that I need know. We're doing rehearsals and Ted Demi says, and actually so I think we're just walking through the thing and all said, we're snorting like cooke. It really wasn't with milk thistle and Johnny and Jordi Moyo, my husband, and blow throws me to johnny and Johnny starts making out with me and like we're doing rehearsal right, like and I'm just like, Oh my God, but they're in character. So I'm like, Oh my God, this met like it and I'm making out with both ways. It's like this crazy thing. Oh, and then they're like and cut, oh my God, stopping shaking, like I'm s Oh my God, and I just hope fake coking. Oh, and I can't start shaking a johnny, my good Jordan. They're like, let's go talk honey, it's okay, whatever you want to do, how you want to run this show. Like you know the scene when we do it and I'm like I just made out with you guys, like this is crazy. How long are you kept cushion things like farts? So I'm doing this whole thing where I slap my husband and bads. It's whole serious thing, and they I just keep hearing farts, but I won't break character. And later I find out, like I everyone's laughing off that and I stopped, like because I was so into like being like serious, and I'm like, Oh God, you really didn't. You got me, but Johnny was getting everybody. So it was awesome. Size so far and bag. That is so sheape. Oh my God, that's the best story. I would love to be in Johnny Depp's presence as well. Oh yeah, I thought of a funny stray that happened to me about I guess this is five or eight years ago now. LIZA's at about right, and I was doing a movie. I was in night shoots and I get a message from a dear friend of mine, Christopher Walk and, who said I lost an actor. I need you on my set tonight. I'm looking at it. I say, well, you know, saw somebody get him on the phone. Game on the phone. What's up, dude? He goes, dude, I had an after playing St Michael. WHO's he playing? Eliza? Gabriel? He was he's playing Gabriel. I think you want me to play he has this has a scene with Saint Michael. That's the climax of the movie. And he lost his actor. He had a horrible, horrible car accident or something really bad, and so he had to had to be replaced immediately. So he called me, but he had a monolog so the I say, well, I'm in night shoot. I'll be over in the morning. Seven the script. He sent to the script. I read the whole skip. It turns out it was the wrong script. So I get they're having not the script. So give me all my words on a hugual what's on a huge wall saying o all my dialogs are read, my lines. Oh my God, that was my funny story. Thanks to Christ you walk. Wow, oh my God, how do you, how do you handle how do you do so professional to handle this situation? My God, Wow, are you still friends with him? Friend, we love each other. Yeah, guys talking his voice, that I would have asked it in his voice. But okay, you guys a cool people, man, they know Coolie Cope only knows you walk and got Johnny Depp and she stuck with me. Still with her, stuck with me. Okay, what's last question? That's question. What is the funniest or or craziest request that you've had from a fan? Hmm, what's your crazy for questy that from refer to their spouses. I'm asked her in person. A lot of my characters, and my characters are eight times out of ten, a creep. So it's sometimes. Do you ever do it? Do you ever give in? I always give them. Wow, ever they want they get. If they're Gonn tag me, I'm going to give them what they want. Oh Wow, you're so kind, so kind, you're so much funny. You Kidding? Oh my goodness, what about you? Jennifer? You know I've been getting it so funny because my husband actually did a post today going no, we're not going to pay your rent and we're not going to pay your mortgage. Like I've been getting lately, these people like reaching out and they're like these long winded like listen, I relapse. I need you to pay my car I need you, and I'm like what? Like, no, made mind, like it's just crazy. It varies, but those are the crazy ones. Lately they are coming to me like pay my mortgages by me a ticket. I don't want to call my mom. You owe me that. I'm like, I don't even know who you don't like. Yeah, I've been getting those kind of things. Yeah, it's I get these weird marriage footposal ones...

...and I always let how do you really how flattering, though? That's so flattering im some is flattering to an except yeah, and then it's just creepy after a while. Yeah, thank you, guys, so much trying our game. Thank you for being here. See you guys out there soon. Thank you. Bye, bye. Thanks, guys. We're going to take a quick break, but when we come back. My fear was that I would, number one, get addicted the first time I reach tried something like any dragmi co Cos a popular mine, especially, you know, living in La Hollywood. I mean it's everywhere and and it was all around me in college. and Oh, I really like them. I did too. Yeah, what did you think of just they're two different worlds. Two different people. They've collided in one similarity, you know, going to celebrity Rehab with Dr drew and going through that, you know, sobriety story and Rehab Story, but they have such different, you know, versions of what their sobriety looks like. Or in Eric Sports Day't want to call it sobriety because he doesn't want to offend anyone. Yeah, what did you think about? No, I just I do think it's interesting that, you know, you have someone that kind of relates more with you in a sense that he thinks that with Inca, his anxiety ady issues and that the he can see, you know, he's strong enough that he's not gonna have, you know, let's see, smoke sweet and he gets back into that, opening up doors to other drugs and getting him back to other things. He's strong and he doesn't feel that he's, you know, not doing his sobriety because he's smoking right and it relaxes him and helps them with that. But then with her, I think that she has she lives in a little bit more fear, right, fear of again, for a lot of reasons why I haven't experimented with drugs really because of fear right. I think she does because of fear of like what happens if she gets cooked again, or the fear of, like, let's say she did smoke a little bit of a pot when she was in the pain and going through all that with that pool and open up the doors for then alcoholism and then going back to cocaine and this and that. So it's interesting. It's it really does. It's really just different and it there's I don't think there's like a big cutoff of what. Sobriety is it really just what it is in your mind and your heart and what my we you said you also had fears of drugs and stuff. What were your fears like? My fear was that I would, number one, get addicted the first time I ever tried something like any drag. They co cos a popular mine, especially, you know, living in La Hollywood. I mean it's everywhere and it and it was all around me in college and all all around me when I've, you know, lived in when I first move to La and stuff. So I was scared of that, but then I was also scarce with the addiction, also that I would be that one person that dies from the first time I'm trying at like or I don't know, Oh, just fear. Yeah, that's a good fear to have. It makes you not try the drugs. That's a great fear to have. I don't know. Yeah, but then I also feel like I've missed out a little bit in life and I'm just like, but I guess I can kind of get it, like when you get drunk to the point that you're not blocked out and stuff. I'm still out of my element and so I can kind of beat'll be goofy or whatever. And Yeah, I think smoking weed is the same thing. I've experimented with it like just a handful of times, and so I think, I don't know. I think I missed out a little bit of life. Oh well, I don't think you did. I really don't think you didn't. Take it from someone who has, you know, had all those fons, I haven't missed out on any of those kind of things. You're not missing much, because coke is just gross. Make sure palms sweat. You can't feel anything in your face anymore. You one line is never enough. You have to keep going, you can't stop. So it's like you're chasing something that doesn't exist, that you felt one time. That's why hair. And then he just you want that's cooke. That's coke. That's cold. And when you go to like the hallucinagens like molly or seeing things like, oh, did you experience cool things? And do you ever? Yeah, do you wish like sometimes that you could maybe like experience that again? or it was it just like no, I mean now I think I enjoy like sober memories so much better because I don't have an excuse of something else there to have caused me to have a good time or not have a good time. I know what I mean. I think for me ecstasy turn into a whole different situation. And you say that this moll situation, molly didn't exist. Back in my day. It was just like those little pills and I guess they called it molly. That what they call it. I think was acid our days. When a said I didn't, I tell I've tried this at all. I've tried. I've tried. I've done a couple tabs ab acid before just to kind of see what the hype was about. But no, but like I used to snort ecstasy. I would crush up a pill and I would snort it. And half of the pill was like good for me, but I overdosed. One time I wrote like a forty eight page letter to my parents, front back, by hand and my friend's bathroom on the floor, because I thought this is it, I'm...

...dying. Do you have this letter? I gave it to my parents so they have it. I went to them the next one. I drove to their house so day, like thinking this is my end, and I handed them, the parent the letter. I don't know if they faged. I was super fucked up when I wrote it, because I know one ever talked to me about it ever. You know, no, never, never came up after that. Was Just like dad one time said to me like I was always worried if I died one day and my kids don't know how much I love them, but that letter you wrote me, you know, tells me that you know how much I love you and care for you. What I was like, Oh my God, my high ass drug leading writing letter ass just just made my dad sentimental about something I did while I was fucking lit on the ground of it. So I kind of feels bad. Let my dad you know, really felt that I was doing. You know, I don't know so it's not worth it to me. It's not worth it to me. I'd rather just smoke pot. I I could smoke a super, super super strong sativa and have that same feeling is doing a line of cocaine a hundred percent. I mean I want you're gonna find out. Yemn, no reads me. So wait. Can we just go back to the forty eight page like letters? Yeah, others, I am going to that's to your dad. Oh my gosh, I think I'm your dad's favorite. They don't know I was your dad. You don't know I was. I was overdosing. Don't tell that. I'm gonna tell if I have to see this head you. No Way. No. Why are you crazy? Why would you want to see a letter I wrote to my parents when I thought I was dying? Why not? Just weird. You're like the cold case files. Channel that you just want to know. Listen, how the what it's work out? I wanted to be an FBI special agent, not never do any drugs. I figured there was a reason for that and I tried out to be an FBI special agents. What there was as a whole, nother podcast to but especially age. I want to go into your files. Of these forty eight pages and bring out what you know now. It's not so it's not worth the wish I had a few of those paper pages right now to put in my pants because they I have literally sweat through my sweats and I conjoin your vagina juice like I am. It's vagina fish, or there's a hair, but it's not a pose. This is actually for really grossest, followed by my hair, my by G Jenas kind of fan it a little bit. This is just it's a little too much in here right now, like okay, this whole cocaine and forty eight page talk and I'm overdosing right now. So while you're beginning out your vagina, because it's really hot in here, and I like to go back to that. This was so I was pretty educational and it's great how everyone's so open about it and everyone's like here to educate others and let him know that it is. Everyone's on their own journey and it's you just have to figure out what works for you and it's right and what does it and people shouldn't be ashamed of if they do have an issue, if they have an addiction or they don't know if they have an addiction. We are so blessed these days to have the Internet that you could just go onto your phone, on your computer and you can just Google anything and get your answers and you can google anything and find places to get help, because drugs are very serious and, like Jennifer was saying, the more we talk about these things and put it out there, the realities, the better we all are, you know, and the better our kids that will be in the future. So, yeah, it was a great conversation. I'm glad we got it. Yeah, hi, y'all. Thank you for listening. If you liked their show, please subscribe to our show. We Love You, guys. We're doing this because we love it, we love being with each other and we love giving you all some of us. So subscribe right overview, give me a rating and I'll see you, guys next time on genuinely Gigi. Thanks for listening to Gitmly Gigi. download new episodes every week and, if you haven't already subscribe to be sure to leave us a rating and review and, while you're at it, check out some of the other great shows available on Straw hut media.

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