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Genuinely GG

Episode · 1 year ago

Our Social Dilemma With Dan Fleyshman

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This week Anita and GG talk to Dan Fleyshman, the youngest founder of a publicly-traded company in history. Listen in as they get advice on how to use their voice through social media. You can watch the video version of the episode on GG's Instagram! From Straw Hut Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Straw media. Hey, y'all, I'm still coughing all the smoke out. Welcome to genuinely GG. I'm here with my girl Anita. Hello, Hey, how are you? I'm good. How are you? God, I'm good. Like my hair. I love your hair. You cut it off, you guys. You cut it off. I darkened it. I had that light ballyash that was like so like out that it was like really bad, and then I cut it off. I just feel like I needed a bit of a fresh start hopes, you know what I mean. That looks how FYL looks good. It looks helping good. Right. Yeah, my hair like a little bit of the highlights in Dude. Yeah, we got low lights. Can You selow? Yeah, right, great, through here in the front. Yeah, so it's just like subtle. I like your hair nice, so long. I've never seen you with short hair ever. Have you ever had short hair? When I take my extensions out there, they're cut a short. How short is your hair? Um, I can show you. Hold on, this is like my own hair is like to hear. So it's not that short. You're rubbing your nipples right now. So if your hair is down to your nips and your like just rubbing them. Yeah, your hair's not short. This is short. That's short. That's sure. My Hair's a little longer, but I just don't have that. I don't have thick hair. I so I were the extention. So it's not for the little thing hare. Well, right now here looks so thick because I have really curly hair and I have a lot of hair. I just don't have thick hair. If that even my sense, I don't know, doesn't make sense. Say it again. Um, I said don't have a lot of hair. I don't have thick hair because, like, my strands are indic that. Yes, yes, I'm like God too were the same. Yeah, my sister has really thick strands but not a lot of hair like me. Anyways, I'm so over this conversation where I still talking about hair. I'm so ober. anyways, oh my gosh. Okay, so I'm very intrigued right now because Kylie Jenner. Everyone knows I'm obsessed to ups a Kardashi and Jenna Claw. I'm sorry, I'm always talking about them. I just love them. I Love Them. I'm sorry. Kylie Jenner apparently says that she is in an open relationship with her baby Daddy, Travis Scott. From what I know, they were in a relationship and then they broke up and they've been hanging out exclusively and now it said that they're in an open relationship. She's sort of recently shut down that whole accusation concept that she's like. I didn't say like that and I'm not saying anything's wrong with people who were in open relationships. I'm just saying, you know, we're what we are. So they do hang out, they they flirt, they kiss. I'm assuming they having sex, but they're not culling their selves exclusive to each other. So that kind of sounds like Poulins, I swear you. I was just going to say maybe, isn't it? You can kind of like squeeze it, and I know, I know she's friends with Willow Smith. Me What me squeeze into that? I don't know. No, gotta do something. Really. I'm not. I'm not into threesomes at all. I never have been, I never will be. I've never had a threesome. I'm not into women. I'm just into multiple relationships with multiple people, but not at the same sexual time. Why does everyone think sex when they think of polly? I don't understand. What do? It just takes you straight to sucks. I don't know. I don't know why people, I don't know, because then you just have other friends. No, it's basically you're for shooting is without actually lying to the person and cheating. It's just that it's that same exact thing. It's just being in multiple relationships. The Guy who cheats on you, who has cheated on you. If you've been with a guy as cheated, hello, what do you think they're doing? They're just having another relationship with another person. Okay, so are saying yes, go back to it, whether it's emotional, sexual, whatever, whatever it is. I don't know if the open. Well, whatever...

...it is that Kylie's doing with Travis, I love it. It's very modern. I'm appreciating that these younger people are talking about these type of relationships. But again, again, Kylie's also under fire, hard fire, right now. I feel like it's always going to be like that with her. Whatever she does, whatever, it's always going to be something. Well, apparently she's under fire right now for something she did seven years ago when she was in a relationship with tiger. Some girl has come forward. What is her name? Her name is Victoria Vana. She went on too, Tick Tock went viral. She said that while she was on set she was like this model, you know, and she was on Tiger's video set, I guess, doing stuff, and apparently it was Kylie, her then best friend Jordan, and her current friends Doscie, and they were teasing her and following her all around set, and when she goes outside they follow her. They sit in their car eating McDonald's, staring at her, laughing at her and saying all types of stuff. So she recently put this on ticktock and obviously went viral. Kylie has said this is completely false. This is not true, but I mean it's just we become in a society that it's become a little easy to place accusations out there on social media, and we also use social media in our benefit. So it's like we're drawn literally between the two. I feel every day I'm scrolling my social media, it's either, you know, the fake news or breaking news. It's like, okay, so I what are you soon going to be fake news in my next scroll, you know. So that really excites me because I get to have this amazing conversation today with you and Dan Fleischman, we're going to talk about, I guess, the Censorship and the lack of censorship therefore, of on social media. Yeah, and then it goes into the mix. I'm excited to okay, really fast. I think the reason she's open and they're saying they're open is that because they're so in the limelight that if anyone sees them with someone else, they're just saying that, like this is it. So it's just doesn't draw more attention to them because they are going because if he cheats on her, as you probably will, as a real another girl, they're just saying that, yeah, but see, that just draws like less attention away from them. That's also a little spect up to say that if he cheats on her, because he probably does, what if it's her that's cheating on him, vice versa? Something it sounded easier to say the other side first. Let's say like they just are just opening it up to like, you know, fuck you guys, fuck the public, like we have an open relationship. So you are, you know, probably going to see, but just just in case, like something does come up. I don't know, doesn't make sense. No, it does. It makes actually it makes a lot of sense. It's like, you know, having an aliball. I faarself. It may be the case, I think that that family is so well coordinated and calculated I remove every comment that goes public. Everything that's said is so decoded, whatever you want to call it, by them, that there's no really not too much room for mistakes with them. Yeah, so I don't know, I really don't. You know her from Shaws of sunset. You know she doesn't hold back. So shamidia had can sue press us, because now I literally I was very much more vocal some you know, ten years ago on my instagram, if someone would say something, I was very vocal about like put my opinion out there and I didn't give a fuck about what they felt for my opinion. This is genuinely gg I'm so excited about our guests because people usually have to pay good money and buy tickets just to hear this guy speak. He's the youngest founder of a publicly traded company in history. Over the years, it's safe to say he's become a serial entrepreneur and has his hand in a multitude of companies. The idea of how large a brand can grow by using social media was truly defined by this man by...

...taking companies from zero to a hundred practically over night, simply by paying celebrities and influencers to post. This is the man who created that concept. Please give a genuinely gg welcome to Dan Fleishman. Hi, Dan, I did man, how are you? This is Anita. We are so happy to have you learning. See are Dan. That's right, Dan, you and I know each other right. We've met a couple times. We met, I think the first time through NEMA or Yep, yeah, and and then you spoke at my event. That only my God, I was hoping that you were not going to remember that elevator. Dan House these Elevator Knights and it's amazing because it's it's so educational. You learned so much about everything. We depending on what the topics are, and I have the opportunity a through NEMA, you know, to come on one of his Elevator Knights and talk about Wosa. I had just launched. Who saw and I was so unprepared. I felt like, okay, I know everything about cannabis, but I knew everything about it on a medical front and how this is something that's going to work and he'll. I didn't know Jack Shit about numbers or business or or any remember this. I I remember how it was OK, Huh law, and then having to watch it with the whole world on TV. I think I like sweat every part of my body out, like ridiculously. I was like, Oh, that is embarrassing, Dude. So, like this elevator nights that I had, I would thank you for the opportunity. I'm so sorry I fucked it up, but like what, what do people come there expecting? Typically, sure. So I've thrown that event thirty nine times now and it's totally free. There's no tickets for sale. There's those sponsors and those it's just my way to get back to the entrepreneur community so they can see entrepreneurs on stage, meet with investors, etc. And so each time I do a different category. So the event you spoke at was for cannabis. Yeah, other times I do it for different industries, from real estate to Attech, cryptocurrency, fashion, etc. And so I try to do these events across the country, mostly in La but I've done it like seven times around the country and during those events it's usually three hundreds, one thousand guests and they just get to meet with each other, watch a few hours of speakers, maybe with each other again, have a good time. That's amazing. And and you don't have to pay to come see this. Well, it's totally free. I pay for everything, you pay for everything. Wow, and that amazing, amazing. That's that's that's not the only thing that Dand does that really stands out for me. I mean, I'm sure to most the world you stand out for all the groundbreaking stuff that you have done in social media's influencers and businesses and companies and you know, just so many things, but for me the main thing that really really stands out is model citizen that you created. Model Citizen Dot Org is just phenomenal. I love what you're doing with it. You are creating backpacks with over a hundred and fifty emergency essentials for homeless people and you're doing that purely at its own cost. Correct. And what was your mission behind you? Because helplessness is a big one for me as well, and I've always advocated for it. Sometimes I felt guilty because I would post about it and people would say, well, why the fuck would you post something like that? And I'm like well, if I could even influence one person to do it, then I'm going to post and if I have a hundred who hate me, I'll take that over that one that just did and get influenced. So I do do that and I you know, over Christmas last year I felt really bad because the pandemic and I had no way to go down to skid row personally to help the way I used to help, because I also have an autoimmune and then there's Covid so I put together a massive thing for Christmas and we create related toy drive and medical supplies and essentials, Geodorans, these things,...

...and we distributed them. So I think you because you do influence someone like me to do that, and I would love to ask you how can I continue to do it at a large scale the way you do? Sure. So, I started model Citizen Fund eight years ago and it was because I kept donating other people's charities like on a Sunday night and a Monday morning, and then Tuesday comes around and Thursday, then next week, the next month, and then you really get to see what happened, and I was raising money from a lot of my friends to donate to those charities. So I still do those sometimes, but only for charities that I know right, like Steve Aoki's charity. I got it, this person's charity called Trinis Kids Foundation. I believe in them right, like I know people and I know how they're going to execute. I'll still donate to those. But ultimately I wanted a charity that I can see, feeling touch and if anybody else donated or replicated, which is what I like more importantly, like you just said, if they I can replicate and have them, inspire them to do it on their own, that's more important to me. And so the backpacks are hundred fifty items, like you said, half our food and drinks and half our cleaning supplies, sleeping bags, a ponchow watch, different items for the local community, duct tape, things that you might not think about. We I researched for five months with military and with homeless, asking them what they would need if they were dropped in the desert, if they have nothing, what would they want or need? And so that's how we created all the items in the backpack. Again, it's a zero percent charity, so I pay for all costs, all items, all marketing, all events, all staff, etc. And so my goal is, like you said it. Sometimes, when I'm posting about homeless people and I'm giving out, you know, a hundred backpacks or a thousand backpacks, etc. Some people are like, oh, why are you posting about that when you're doing good? You shouldn't post about it. I completely disagree. Not only do I disagree, I can prove why I disagree and why they shouldn't think like that. Here's what yeah, every time I post about these charity events or I post about giving out to the homeless, the next one week to one month I get bombard with people that do it, that replicate me. In Philadelphia and New York, in El Salvador and Tijuana, Mexico and Las Vegas. All these people replicate what I'm doing in their own cities, right, and so I don't care if anyone's mad at me over it because they have their virtue signaling. They're thinking that they're cool by saying you shouldn't post about it. No, I'm posting, but it not for you to pat me on the back, for you to go do it in your own city, right. That's what I want you to do. I don't need you to donate to me. I want you to go do it in your own city. You can make backpacks, you can fill up ziplog bags, you can go feed the homeless and if you don't want to do that, you can go donate to the children's hospital. You can like you go do it. You don't have to do it. I'm doing right. I love that. I would love to do it at a larger scale. I think I only had I did it within a couple weeks time and I was really shocked at how fast, you know, things were accumulated. Based off that, I'm sorry, hair like a weird sound. It's the the ambulance. Oh, I was like, what's happening? That is my head. I were hearing it. So I'm like, is that me? Well, what the well, my God, Oh my God, we just lost my twenty have. Everything was happening so fast when you were doing the bags for I'm so sorry. So I was collecting that. I had up a couple of my wealthier friends. I had a couple of friends that had companies that had toys and medical supplies and whatnot, and I was shocked at how much my friends and I were able to just put together in such a short period of time. So I really made me want to do this more often and make ourselves useful, you know. But again, I their social media in the picture right, posting it, talking about it, thinking the people who are helping, the the the mission. But I get the backlash. I get okay, well, why aren't you helping people in this country? Why aren't you sending money here? So you're someone who deals with money on a much larger scale than I do, so I'm sure you get that from a million times more people than I do.

What do you do? How do you how do you draw the boundary up how much to give, and how do you say to people I'm sorry, I can't give to you, I have to give to them. How do you define that? So no matter what you do, people are going to hate on it. I use the example of Jeff Bezos when he don'tated ninety seven million dollars about a year ago. You don't need ninety seven million dollars. Every single media outlet in the planet said, oh well, he didn't done need a hundred million. Oh, a hundred millions only like a cup of coffee to him. Wait a minute it there's eight hundred other billionaires that donated zero and you're complaining that he donated ninety seven million dollars. And so that just proves the point. No matter what you do, whether you donate ten grand, a hundred grand or ninety seven million, people are going to talk crap and so you can't change what you're doing because you still want them to donate. You still want us to go out there and do it. And what frustrates me about that that media part of it is what if Bezos doesn't donate ninety seven million next time? Right, think about the millions of people that are impacted by not getting that money. And so only thing I do is the way I frame my social media is explaining or showing how they can do it in their city, how you can do this in your own town. So we do this thing every Thursday in different cities. It's like a tipping dinner where everybody chips in a hundred bucks each, or if I go, I'll try to get everyone to chip in a thousand dollars each. And so we did it a few days ago and, I might tick Tock, and went viral. And why did go virals? Because people talking crap about it. What happened? Because we raise fourteen thousand dollars from fourteen friends of thousand bucks each, and we tip to the waitress and the staff at this restaurant because they've been closed for months. The comments simple, so smart. We're going to take a quick break, but when we come back. Yeah, some social media influencers that that's their dream. They actually study train reach scripts to try to get onto TV and that's their goal, even though it to you show might only have one million viewers or two million viewers and they're getting twelve million on their every tick tock forever YouTube. They still rather be here. How do you do that? Like, how do you how does your brain get to work like that? I mean it's not fair that I don't have any parts of that in my brain at all, like, because when you explain it and I hear you talk and I read things about your interviews, my geezy makes it sound so simple, but it's not. There's there's got to be this extra thing, Dan, that you have, that you possess, that you're able to take thoughts that we possibly all have. You drive out thought to another galaxy and you create it. You have an ability to do that and I know a lot of people say, Oh, it's easy to make money when you have money, but you didn't start off like that. You have a really cool story on and you really did hustle. So I appreciate where you're at and I respect where you're at right now and I'm just trying to be where you at and in this whole lowing me Di, we're trying to be there. This whole owing viral thing is like, I want to learn how to go viral. I've been on TV for ten eleven years and TV does not give you what social media can give you. And it's funny because I hear the vice verse out to it all the time. People who are massively viral on social media would love to just be on TV too. And I see like Addison Ray on the on the Kardashians now, and it's like, okay, you're so cool on ticktock, but you're really dull. Wants really interesting. How yeah, it's true. I'm sorry, but it's true. So how can I go viral? How do I create something that I can be big on social media? Yep, yeah, some social media influencers that that's their dream. They actually study, train read scripts to try to get onto TV and that's their goal. Even though it t show might only have one million viewers or two million viewers and they're getting twelve million on their every tick tock wherever youtube. They still...

...rather be here because the branding side, the personal brand for you, is huge. There's very few shows in history that have run for a decade right, and so for them to even get on one season or two season would be huge for them. And so that's why that they're so passionate about getting onto TV, because TV is the ultimate personal brand. On the flip side, being on TV like, well, how do I go viral? How do I get a million views or ten million Mus etc? The main things are compelling content that's either controversial, shareable for funny. So why does it have to be one of those things? You have to make me, as a follower, like I'm following GG. You have to make me, as a follower, wants to share your content or repost your content. If I don't do that, you can't go viral. So video by itself cannot go viral without its users pumping it up. And how do I make them do that? Well, one, they have to want to do it right. They have to want to do it because they're either mad about it, they love it, or it's something funny or entertaining or just thing to them. So usually it's going to be something that stands out. What's just called the pattern interrupt. The pattern interrupt is when we're scrolling through instagram or scrolling through twitter, etc. We're seeing things over and over and over. It's the same bikini photo, it's the same buff guy, it's the same food blogger, they have their same makeup content, the same thing we see from them almost every single day. And then you see a video of gg and the trees on fire and she's putting it out right. Well, there's Oh my God, Oh my God, Gay, no, girl, what? I spent so much time on the studio. My God, sorry, sorry, sorry, okay, she's killed out with me. That would be something about you were with your your wife, and she did something just about touching a wall, and you did it on reap and not that one viral. Yes, it was enough million views in one day and all she was doing was touching a wall. And is it because you were a part of that that it went viral, because your name is attached to it, or no, that one. There's another trick to go enviroral, which is catching trends. So during that moment there's a Hashtag that was about that touching the wall. So there's lots of people doing that video that she did. And the timing of it is you have to catch in the first forty eight hours, otherwise it doesn't matter. HMM. What I mean by that is if you posted about McGregor and may weather fighting right now, nothing would happen because that fight was years ago. But within the twenty four to forty hours of the fight or rusted the night of the morning after, I had video go get sixteen million views. A sorry tweet get sixteen million views because I posted it right during the fight and I was prepared. I had I had a tweet prepared if many were the loses, if may wear their wins, if may, whether it gets into controversy, and so I had something ready for anything that happens in that situation. So the second the fights over, I could post that night and the next morning post is similar post to try to catch the tail wind sending. It happens with a lottery. When the lottery had over six and fifty million dollars in the mega ball, I posted about it and I got twenty three million views on this post. Why? If I posted today, I would get twenty three total people. Right, nobody cares because it's not megaball time. It's not matter in that lement. Everyone's searching for something. Everyone's searching on the news about mega ball or about mayweather McGregor. And so when situations happened, like even for your season Finalees, your season finales are a moment in time right here in those season finales, that's when you want to be posting, especially reunion clips, season finale clips, things that happened, teasers, etc. Those are your best chances to go viral because the world is watching. When I say the world, it's not all seven billion people, but it's the seven million humans that followed the show, right, or the four million people of the twelven people that follow that. They are searching and they're ready for it during that twenty four hour window. And so the reason I can make videos go viral or post go viral. There's also lots of times where I post and doesn't go viral. Write there's...

...another fight and I post about let's call it may where the verse of someone else. It doesn't go over because I don't catch up the right time or it's not funny enough or interesting enough. So it has to have something compelling to it and it has to be shareable. You. Has To be something that US, as the followers of gg are then going to afford it or repost it. Right. And then how do you know which platform to put it on? Like you have your specific hey dad, so what somebody hires you is how does that work? What do you mean? How would bring you post on all of them? So you do to the later you do to Instagram, tick weed, to Tick Tock. We need a tick tock. I don't have piece look at him, he just looks at a trailer stupent. So we don't have them or stupid. Yeah, I know, I know. I've never even had a snapchat one. You have to put yourself the position to get lucky. That means is you don't know if you're post is going to go viral on facebook or tick tock or instagram or snapchat, etcetera. So you've got to post on all of them. It's the same content. So don't you know to take extra time to create a tick tock versus a facebook or instagram? It's the same video, the same post, the same photos. Yeah, well, you have to do is posted across each platform and it's like digging for oil, right, right, dig and facebook, don't find anything. They on Instagram, don't find anything. Boom, you dig on Tick Tock together, the oil explodes and all sudden you got two million views. Right right. It's the same video on every single platform, but you just don't know which platform is going to take off, and so you got to be on all of them. Okay. So, like the vice to all of this is also a big thing, because as much as we can use social media to our advantage if we do it the right way, there's also people out there who are praying on social media to use it as a tool of mass destruction. Literally on EEDA and I were just talking about this whole recent Kylie generous situation with this woman who recently came forward and on Ticktock, and now that's gone viral, that she's accusing Kylie years ago and her friends of bullying her on the set of tigers video shoot. Kylie came back on social media and denied all the accusations. So again, for instance, you know the Jeremy piven situation. That happened some years ago and he was falsely accused of sexual in misconduct. He was literally it was it was declared it was false accusations, but still the damage is done. So you sugar cancel and there's a hundred and sixty employees that don't have a job because of false accusation which God canceled on Turush. No, he had a TV show called wisdom of the crowd. I love that show. By the ways, when the few shows actually watched, he's actually hung with them. It's really this sweet. I'll I really like Jeremy even but it's sad because people can take a certain character that that people play or or, you know, put perceive on a TV show or in the media or whatever, and then they go on with their accusations have it and I just feel like sometimes social media had can suppress us, because now I really I was very much more vocal some you know, ten years ago on my instagram, if someone would say something, I was very vocal about like not necessarily always a fuck you back, but I just put my opinion out there and I didn't give a fuck about what they felt for my opinion. Now I don't even put the word and in the wrong place in my sentence when I'm writing the day is beautiful and Sonny, because, God forbid, it wasn't as sunny as someone else who woke up that morning and I just nice. You know what I mean? It's so like. That brings me to my question of to you about freedom of speech, because I saw that you had an interview where someone asked you if you believe that we have freedom of speech and you said absolutely not, because social media and media and all that has taken that from us. So how do we define this, this balance? How do we find that balance between being able to use this for a positive cause, like Hashtag me to, and then not being able to take advantage...

...of it, like Hashtag me to? Sure, so certain keywords and certain things that you say on social media platforms will, it's called suppress. They will suppress your content, like right now, if you try to use the word covid or vaccine and your instagram stories you're that's it. Your instagram will be not just suppressed, but that's it it's going to be. You're going to get up what's called a Max. You'll see it a max of onzero views. So let's say you normally get tenzero. It'll be a Max of a thousand four seven days, and if you say the word again, they could literally shut your and countdown just over using a word like covid or vaccine. Same thing happens with shopping, discount, code, linking, bio, a lot of things that you just put in your captures. Will suppress your content because the social media platforms want to make money. They think that they're smart by suppressing content that goes for a lot of different keywords. Now, especially on facebook and instagram specifically. That doesn't happen on twitter, doesn't happen on Snapchat, but facebook instagram specifically, they suppress content based on certain keywords. Now, the next thing I'll say is when it comes to political activism, when it when you have something to do with religion, when you have things to do with race, when need to have things to do that with politics, you will never convince someone to change. And so what happens is happier followers will love what you're saying, but they already loved you after follows me mad at you and they're never going to change. And so I only go into fights that I know I can win. So let me give an example. Let's say we that room on the right, there's a living room over there. We place a Jewish person, the Muslim person. They close the door, and the room on the left we put someone that loves trump and loves biden. We close that door after they speak in there for one hour and we open those doors. If we replicated that a hundred times, is that Jewish person ever going to say, you know what, you're right, I'm switching a Muslm today. And then on the left, are they ever going to come out of the room say, you know what, I love trump too. I'm done with Byden never zero percent right, not one percent, not to percent, it's just zero. And so I don't go into Soli comedian battles or I'm not going to convince someone to change their mind about a specific topic. And the people that already agree with me, they already agree with me. And so I tell people that are influencers, brands, etc. Not only is it not your fight, me too, and things like that are different, because those are it's very clear right. There's a right answer and there's a wrong answer to that right. There's certain things that are clear when it comes to situations that happen in our world that are clear. Racism is a clear thing. That is wrong right. There's are right and wrong, but when it comes to traum versus Biden or religions, religion, you can't change someone's mind and there isn't a right or wrong because they're there. are both right in their own worlds. That's how they grow up, and so it's it's a fine line. The way I say to influencers and brands has don't talk about politics, don't talk about religion, don't talk about race. You're never going to win any of those scenarios. It can only hurt your brand. It's what I call a negative free row, meaning the only thing that can happen is bad. You can never gain anything from doing this. The only thing that can happen is bad. You can get canceled the Yell Dad, you can lose after your audience, you can have people freshly with you. You can never have anything good because those people that are good already care about you. Right, you know my good friend Lily Galitchy. She's amazing at business and you know marketing, and she's just so well at putting these things together for herself and one of the best pieces of advice that she did give me was exactly what you just said. was, you know, if you're creating product, at which I have who saw right, she said, are you creating we saw, for specifically Democrats or specifically Republicans, and I'm like no, it's for everybody. She was then why are you, you know, advertising for Democrats or for a Republicans, because then you're now limiting who's buying your product, you know. So I realize that. But we we also had a podcast and lily was on and we were talking about it, because I'm like, well, I feel like maybe I'm not being my authentic self sometimes if there's a critical situation that's happening...

...in the world and I don't say something because in my heart of hearts, it's saying say something. For instance, Anita, Anita is Jewish and this whole situation that's going on between Israel and Palestine. Anita posted the bluegees of the Blue Right and she lost a bench of followers and she was shocked at that and I laughed that she I lit I thought it was funny. I wasn't shocked, but I was I knew that was going to happen. In a sense, but not not as many as I thought. I was going a lot, but it was just like some of the comments and people just not understanding and and then I was like, you know what, like maybe that was a mistake, because I should maybe engage and get, you know, answer back to these people. I don't know. But then I did and I just kind of left it alone. Because so if you're if you're an influencer or a company owner or someone that a brand, it is is basically not a smart idea to bring in your personal beliefs, ever correct, literally ever ever look. But then if you don't puss it, but then if she doesn't, then everyone's going to say you have a voice and you have the following, you should do that to support. So That's how you wo they also tell you how you should parents and how you should eat and how you should make and how you should dress and how you should this and I should that, you should go to college, you should have two kids in a white picket pens. It's irrelevant. Anything right. Yeah, I mean, I mean there's no specific right or wrong answer, but there's, in an answer that has proven to be successful and that is just stay neutral, just stay neutral. I need to learn that because, you know, I still do have U. saw Dan and then it was just CBD and I'm about to launch my TCHC line because I now, you know, under a New Partnership in licensing. So I'm excited. So if you ever have another cannabis night when your elevator night situation, I definitely will be prepared this time. I promise you won that I won't let you down. And ask can I ask you one piece of advice for Anita and I and genuinely gg. This is been an all time dream of mine always to get to be a host like I've always wanted to be, not like a private person, like I love when people do like panels and they just have conversation and discussion. I want to be like the bill mar of pop culture, you know, with that type of cond I love controversy. So what advice would you give us to make that happen? It's it's compelling care ors that you can have that you don't have to agree on everything. So if you bring on certain characters that you can argue with or you can go down the rabbit hole with, or you can see a completely different side that you may not necessarily agree with those if you want to have those type of controversial talks or just those straightforward, blunt talks that a lot of people aren't doing or they want to like pity what you call it, like pitter pat around. I think that's important because those little highlight clips, those thirty to sixty second sound bites, are what can make the podcast or can make the audience grow. Is that's sharable content. If there's forty three seconds of you arguing with someone like the way Bill Maher does, or putting your foot down about a topic that's clear cut, that's wrong, and now you can have a compelling situation. That's how videos go viral. That's what gets a whole bunch of new listeners, because what happens is the people on twitter or facebook or instagram or tick tock share that forty three seconds and now people want to hear more. Right, when I told you about the tipping thing, with we're donated to pit the fourteen grand, most every single comment, also that wasn't about like talking crap or praising us. Every other comment was where's more of the clip? Where's more of the video? Can you show us more? Tick Tock has three minute clips. Now, why don't you show full three minutes? That's literally what the comment say, and so what that means is make a forty three second clip of your argument or your stance or your really good highlight clip with a good character, a good guest. Those are the type of situation...

I can you can get lucky where you all of a sudden you get a whole bunch of views and whole bunch of you listeners. Wow, thank you. Okay, okay, I'm I just did my first actual behind the scenes. I was like we're about to do, you know, genuinely gg podcast right now. I'm so excited and I was thinking because I was like, Oh my God, Dan's going to be on and I can't wait to brag that I actually did that. You know how they gotta tell him like I'm taking the initiative, but I gotta, we gotta get more active with that. We're going to sign up on Tick Tock. Yes, what I'm definitely going to keep following you in all aspects of your life because I find you to be a very intriguing, interesting, intelligent human being and I'm very, very grateful to all the charitable work that you do. Do out there. I'm appreciative to you and thank you for taking time out of your very busy schedule to sit down with us. We really appreciate you, Dan, but before we let you go out, Anita, this is my this is my moment. Okay, so it's my bunt. So it's a little game that we like to play. Usually there are at the questions could be a little scary and risk gye, but we're going to be nice today, so work. Okay. So again, forgive me, I have sinned. How many social media influencers or models did you date before you married your wife? That was in a long term relationship prior to that. So one. Oh, really, your relationship? Guy? Yeah, it was. It was four years and now six years. Oh, that's so okay. Wow, wow, you didn't get that. I did not get me out of him. Yeah, now I need I got the ain't me fired. I should bring like a sound effect here when you call. Yeah, so, we like, yeah, off all this time. His next question. This is okay. which brand do you think needs the Dan Fleischmann touch? Like, who needs you to help them? Who saw? Maybe that's later, no brainer. Yes, Huh, never needs us. They have so much sex. Okay, okay, okay. They have so much content and they just don't push it out on social and then they wonder why some shows don't get that many views or some shows go viral. The ones that go viral, you could pour gasol on the fire and I can make them go crazy viral right like if if you're getting good trash on the show and all of a sudden it gets like one million downloads or two million downloads, I can help you get to ten or twenty or thirty or forty million, because people care. Right, people like that show and some. Netflix is a brand I I've always wanted to help amplify. I've done a couple campaigns for them in the past. I was years ago. They just don't do it consistently enough, and so I like that as a brand. Wow, damn, I feel like God just spoke. I know, whatever, we gotta let God go. Same over us. Think you so much for hanging out with us and I hope to have you back again soon. Pleasure the gains of everything. By what? We're going to take a quick break, but when we come back, excuse you. It was the biggest bulch of my life. I didn't even have a pregnancy bulch that big. I don't know what happened. I swear that was weird. Oh my God, you don't know. When I wasn't there and then I saw after happy. You were happy that I was bulching. Oh my God, after saying that last sort of my stomach bulge, I got to wear spanks from now on. Look at hold on, let me pull this up, call it looks so much. Why did you let me sit across from you with that stomach bulge last week? Never wanted to notice it. Excuse you. It was the biggest bulch of my life. I didn't even have a pregnancy bulch that big. I don't know what happened. I swear that was weird. Oh my God, you don't know. When I wasn't there and then I saw it af your happy. You were happy that I was bulching. Happier bulging. Actually think you've lost weight. She thank you. I told you how. The TEXTA said you...

...have actually lost weight. Thank you. What's up? What the Bulch? That's what I'm saying. I don't understand. I think it was like the camera. Ain't that they was the same angle on you. You didn't have the Bulch I had that weird like baggy. Wait, what was I wearing? Oh, that was the one when I was wearing the I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I just remember my bulch. So I'm just gonna, I gotta think this all. Yeah, it's just like a fortunate put this buck behind me like this. The but then what about after that? Were Flinde, which loved and true, I really liked Dan, like I've met him a couple times and he's always been friendly every recording. Yes, this whole time. I really love Hello, I'm back, so I really like him too. Yeah, Dan's amazing. I've met him a couple times, you know, and he was always really cool. It was really cool of him to let me come to that elevator night because, honestly, they don't let just any little, you know, person who's not prepared and kind of making a mockery out of the whole situation. There were, they were fucking crickets and the audience when I was talking. There are you, I remember. Why do I know this? But I wasn't, because it was actually it was actually filmed on shots and it was on shot and I know this will vividly yes, it was really bad. I'm so sorry. When that where some of my worst moments, I get to rewatch them with the fucking world. People don't realize how real this shit is. Av It's insane what I did. I messed up and I had a water bottle and you know, in the water bottle just felling when ker plank on the podium. I mean, things could not get worse. It's just like my chair started falling backwards. They weren't queuing the slides and then they did cue the slides and it was the wrong one. So I was like a lost and this one right here. You guys, see what it says. Read it, read it. I'm telling to people to read it. It was just were you guys least, and I can't believe he even came to do my podcast. A cracket joke like. I'm glad you, you know, came here to some order after what she did to you, but that was sweet of him, azing and he's giving you another chance. He's gonna give me another chance. I have to say you've approved a lot. It's like you took that nightmare of an experience and you have become this like just watching you and I'm learning a lot from you, just the way you handle your you know, whatever said. Everything I was was Shervan that day. He because he was supporting me. Shervan and Nemai, we all went together. That was also ask you, because it was Nima, not this NEMA, the new name on your life. No, it is Nema with the green eyes that say has the really big teeth on shots. Yes, introduce you to yeah, this Dan. I meant Dan through NEMA. Okay, known as brother other. Okay, Gotcha. Okay, so I went with Nema and Sherban, and the thing was Serban kept telling me not to smoke weed before it. He said, no, you're going to fuck up, you're going to fuck up, and I made you guys don't understand. I fuck up if I don't smoke weed, like I just cannot. I start getting confused, things don't start making sense, and that's when I know it's time to fucking pick up the joint right. So I didn't have that. I was very nervous to be on stage by myself. I didn't know what was going on, I didn't know what was on the slides. You know, my business partner sent it last minute. So I didn't. I was an idiot. I was an idiot. But, like, I'm so ready now, like four and a half years later, now that I have I turned, we saw, into multiple companies, you know, and it's thriving. Everyone sees that. So I don't know, I just want to go do another elevator night or whatever it is that Dan's do. I just want to hang out with Danny's Sonny friends. Oh my God, he knows everybody. Yeah, like everybody. Now, if you're were at that dinner which you have contributed a thousand dollars, did they know the aftermath of it or no? What do you mean? I mean, if I if I want, if someone said to me, like give me a thousand bucks, I'm not surely naturally going to be like why? Yeah, like, but...

...if they said, trust me, I'm doing something with this, and it's Dan Fleishman, you would give him tenzero right there. I would give him my leg I'm going to just give it back to me. Much better. Let my Lego viral. You know, it's okay. Could you imagine like Fourteenzero just handed over to why not? I mean, I had I last night. Last night I was waked, I was a Soho House and had a meeting there, okay, and I walked out and I found twenty bucks on the ground. I give it to the ballet. Well, that's as it's. Yeah. Well, that was nice as my contribution, because I feel like it's like I found the money. That can't keep it. Oh, so, so, hold on. So social media made you think of not being humane. No, I didn't. No, no, I did it, and I don't know why. I'm telling us a story. I'm trying to figure it out. So, because you didn't smug weed yet I did us, but I think it might be now. You're not good. You're my check from second on. My chest feels heavy when I'm with you, because you, when you're with me, have every time. She sent my chest. So I don't know if I'm falling in love or what, but it's heavy. It's something feels different. No, I gotta work after this, like immediately after. Well, you said you were at Soho last night. You walked her here with a like a costco size gatorade and you're not drinking alcohol like you were last week. Drink Gatoray. So what happened last night? And I could tell you why. Your chest is so tight and as I done over. I know had one glass of wine. That bitch said one. You mean one bottle? where? Got One glass of wine and it was a work meeting. I only had one hit of the joint, one long hit. Oh for this whole thing, the podcast for day right now. Yes, like your one glass of wine. I was saying. Is I feel like, yes, I found the twenty bucks whatever, I'm not going to put on social media. I mean like I found twenty bucks. Here you go. I need to do, you know, like okay, so that's so. I'm but I'm hoping that next time someone finds twenty bucks or a hundred bucks in the instead of spending it on them, as good Carmen and a good thing to do, you feel the money. Give it, give it away. Do that, do the fourteen thous maybe next to you got to dinner. Will do a pot, you know, not a thousand bucks. But you know what, I don't like that people do post. I don't like the ones that look greedy of people were they're like filming their hand, reach over to hand them a plate of food or or to hand them money or something like that. Why not just do, for instance, what I did? Last Christmas. I filmed all the stuff that was used and collected. I filmed the company, I filmed US packing this stuff. I didn't film it in a way where I was trying to gain sympathy. Yeah, you know, I don't want that. I want awareness. I Want Hey, in two weeks, you can do it too. Yeah, there's different scales to it. D and does it on a massive scale. You know, we're doing it on a different scale. But I love doing it and I want to take every bit of advice that Dan gave us and I want to really grow a nice charity thing that we can keep doing four kids. Yeah, it was very proud of what you did last we did. We'd what we did. I helped you pack the stuff. You you did the all the leg work and I'll just you it just came and drink, drink, and we didn't guess something. I couldn't have done it without the packing. I have arthritist, so guess it wouldn't have gotten done. No, I'm not joking. Everyone is something. It doesn't matter. It's going to be all of us. Anyways, I loved talking to Dan. I was so happy to have him. If you guys want to find him. You could go to Dan plaishment. He's just Google it, go on it's to go on anything he believes and only getting one name for everything, and he says that's the smartest thing to do. Stick to one name for all social media. It is easier to contact you, easy to find you. So I have always done that, going Nessa out of Todt Gon Nessa Gig. So it's always there. You'll always find me. Try to say my last name if you can't. If you can't, too bad, but I love you, guys. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of genuinely gig please write a review, give me a rating and subscripy, but thanks y'all. Thanks for listening to genuinely Gigi. download...

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