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Is GG Addicted To Weed? w/ Evan Jarschauer

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GG and Leila talk to Evan Jarschauer, a Professional Dual Diagnosis Interventionist, and Licensed Psychotherapist, to determine wether or not GG is a weed addict.

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Straw media. Welcome to another episode of genuinely gggg LGE and Laylah. Hi Guys, hi, hi, hi, Oh, hi, AH, hi, trying to get high. Actually, oh my gosh, I speaking of getting high. This is really interesting. I have a couple of friends which I can't name, but they did like a whole mushroom trip recently and they went and got like all these you know, those glows sticks at back in the clubs that we would do on you're on extasy like that and like stars all over the house, and I apparently like it's supposed to do something with lights when you're on mushrooms and stuff. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I thought I did mushrooms when I was like fifteen, but nothing happened to me. So I think I literally ate mushrooms that were not mushrooms from trader Jos probably, you know, the Chataki maybe because it wasn't magical, nothing really happened to me. I was like fuck, is this? You know, I don't know what it was, but everyone's doing mushrooms nowadays. Everyone's kind of like micro dosing and, you know, saying that they're having spiritual cleanses from mushrooms and my friends are literally saying the next day they wake up, they really feel like ten pounds lighter, like spirit truly, and just they feel good and like with clarity. I have friends that do something called toad. Have you ever heard of toad? Oh, yeah, yeah, I heard it that I they do back in Perua. They get a venom. Well, they do it here too, and they it's done legally. Everything is a illegal mushrooms are illegal. Everything's illegal, not Chataki, not Chataki, not trader Joe Shataki Mushrooms. But they say they do it with a Shaman in. A Shaman comes in. It's like in a controlled, illegally controlled environment like IOWASCA. No, it's called toad and apparently it's something from an actual toad. Yeah, I know that they would get the venom of it, but that's like that's something I'm at. They have these spiritual awakenings and all. I mean, I've never tried it. I'm too scared to try any of that kind of stuff, but that's some creepy stuff right there. You're going to compare like a spiritual growth of a moment from a magical mushroom. That's not Chataki and cannabis. To that some toad Shit. I mean to me, they're all drugs. No, they're not all drags. They're not all drags. That's the thing. I smoke cannabis from morning tonight. You know that, and I think you're a drug addict. HMM, wow, that's you know what. Okay, it's not a drag in the state of California. So in the state of California, I'm just very, very, very smart. All alcohol is legal and you could be an alcoholic. If you drink alcohol from morning till night, you're an alcohol and you can be a cannib this addict, which also is very slim, because only nine percent of people can get addicted to cannabis. I think you're definitely in the nine percent. I might be you are, I might be sure. Admit to that. Okay, thank my but it does not stop me from doing what I need to do all day. I work. I'm up at five am every day. No, my son does not wake me up at five am, he sleeps until zero am. Okay, I'm up, I work, I do all this stuff. I'm happy. I'm not going crazy. I don't have hangovers the next day from alcohol likes because you listen, that's personally. Look who took it personally. How's your hangover right now? I don't. I drink maybe once a month, if that once a month, at least less than once a month. All right, whatever it is, cannabis is fine. It helps me and I don't think it's an issue. But you've heard a hair of the dog. Right, I've heard of a hair of the dog. Are you how on hair of the dog from your hair? Yesterday that was a new said you walk the cranberry? Yeah, from starbucks. Yeah, who knows? What you put people put out. You Se over in the morning because we're Ahos, punny wake up on bottom. Other point. So it's like the hair of the dog. We have Evan Josh our hair to determine if I'm a fucking drug addict in need of an intervention, because I smoke cannabis to help my autoimmune and I'm so happy ever since I have and I don't punch people anymore in the faces. Let's welcome Evan Josh Ower. You know from Shaws of sunset. You know she does an old back. Not Make sense to why someone that goes through that as a child resort to self medicating to sort of numb out. This is genuinely gg. Hi Ivan, welcome to genuinely GG. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate the opportunity. We have. Evan Jar shower and he is...

...a professional dual diagnosis interventionist, which we will get into what that means in a second, and a license psychotherapist. I'm excited to have you here. Welcome. This is my sister and cohost, lay La. Hi You. I'm really excited to have you here because, as you know, even though you are located in Florida correct. Well, I'm based in Boker, a beautiful Bulka retne, Florida, but I work all over the country, all the way from Calabasas to Kansas. Well, that helps then. You should know that here in Calie the laws that we have, a lot of legalization happens here. For obviously, cannabis. Mushrooms are in the talk all about around the nation right now. It's just sort of spreading around and it's being viewed as medical stuff. So I want to get into that, but, if you will, before we get into that, I want to talk to everybody about what it is specifically that you do, because I also went to lm you and studied dual diagnosed, this treatment for addicts, and so I was really excited to get this conversation going and we could, you know, exchange views on how we see that whole dynamic. But why don't you explain to people what it actually means to be a dual diagnosis professional? Yeah, sure, so what I do is I work with families that have a loved one who has both a substance abuse issue and mental health issue. And oftentimes most of my clients they have depression, anxiety, by polar it could also be pain management issues, and I was doing a little bit of research on you and understand a little bit more about arthritis, right. So they could have the medical issue, that could have the mental health issue and so oftentimes they're self medicating with some type of mood altering substance to try to cope with whatever it is that's going on in their lives and sometimes that self medicating behavior ends up taking over and my job then is to come in and put together a plan of action in a very loving, supportive and understanding way to ultimately help that person who may be in denial treatment, resistant not only accepts some help, but in the very embracing and understanding way. So ultimately we increase the prognosis, we increase the chance that the person's actually going to buy into the process of recovery. That's pretty much what I do, right and I I've tried to do my do research on you as well as I do all my guests. Hopefully you can go too far back. I tried. I tried, Evan, and I was I fell short because there's not a whole lot about you in the further back years of your life, and I did catch you say things here and there in different interviews that I watched of yours about your past helps you be better in your profession, and I was love if you would be you know, if you're comfortable with opening up about what that means. A hundred percent. Yeah, so part of what I do is I'm walking to people's homes all over the country that are sharing the most intimate details of their life, right, and so I've learned that if I'm not transparent and open with my families, and how are they supposed to be open and transparent with me? Right, right. With that said, so for me recognizing that I've had my own issues with mental health and my own addiction issues and own dealing with grief and trauma and loss and somehow channeling all of that together into some work that I can do where I feel as though I'm able to take all of my experience, all of my heart aches, all of my accomplishments and actually helped to change people's lives. It's a really cool, amazing feeling to be able to take everything I've gone through and ultimately, let me answer your question a little bit better, when the welcome to home and the person looks at me and says that's great, mom or husband or honey, that's wonderful. You brought somebody here who's got plenty of letters after their last name, but you have no real life understanding of what I've gone through. So if you don't have any experience in your all book, then we can't relate and this ain't going to work right. So I have to be able to join them in that experience, share a certain part of WHO I am in my personal life experiences, but then also be able to get out of that so we can move forward and get them some help. That's kind of the general understanding of my history in the nuts ram. I remember some of my courses that I took throughout getting my certification for the dual...

...diagnosis treatment and I remember talking about bias. We had a whole course about because of our past experiences, are we able to see without bias or treat without bias? How much of your past do you think plays into maybe a bias, because, I mean, we're human, we all tend to have natural tendencies to have a bias based on our experiences. But do you think you move forward more based on your past experience? is in your work ethic? Yeah, absolutely. So. You know I'm working. So I'm working with a family and their loved one has a problem with marijuana right and so they're looking at this as this is the worst thing ever in the whole wide world. They are it's almost satanic, and so I'm able to meet with the family help them with their anxiety that, because of my own personal experiences, I'm able to help them work through their anxiety, that this may be part of your loved ones journey in exploring different substances, being social, being recreational, and by doing that and by understanding my own stuff, then ultimately a lot of cases the marijuana isn't necessarily the number one issue. It's sometimes it's oftentimes the substance that used to try to mask whatever the real issue is, and usually it's something related to depression, anxiety, trauma of that nature. So for me, for example, when I was a little boy, I'll share this with you right, okay, when I was a little boy, my father took me. I was one of those kids like on the milk card, and guy, that was me as I always started out in life. I was five. My parents weren't getting along and my mom was going to be getting custody of me and my dad's said no and he took me to Canada. Wow, and I lived there for two years under a different name. It's a whole story. Wow, right, we got to have you back for an from John Ask no, yeah, so for me right there, I my name was changed, I lived in a different an alias. We came back to America, I went back to being Evan again. Wow, but I think at a young age would that did? Was it? kind of it. It definitely affects you and how you see what is what right, what is wrong, what is real, and so ultimately kind of built up into what helped to become a number one fire inside me, and that was being able to help amazing crisis from an environment where it was such turmoil that my father would kidnap me and I had to then, I read you, reunited with my mom when I was around fifteen sixteen, and then in that period of time my dad passed, my grandmother came to help raise me. So I went through my period of exploration with drugs and alcohol and trying to cope and fit in and dealing with the depression, the anxiety and the trauma being separated from mom, all that stuff together, I'm very confident that the work that I do now is what helped me keep my head together, because if I wasn't doing this, I don't know if I would be I don't know what I would be doing. I saw this inside the actor studio without Paccino thing. Yeah, it was that either out Peccino or Robert Deniro, and they the lilipped in, the guy who runs the show. He said you weren't an actor, what would you be doing, and you got a guy like Danio saying I'd probably be a waiter. Yeah, and with me, I don't know, maybe I'd be maybe I would be a waiter, I don't know, but there's no question that the path, the road that I went down earlier in my life was helped to bring me to a point now where I'm feel sometimes like I'm on a professional mission, yeah, to help a lot of families in crisis in a professional, ethical and understanding way and breaking through walls and helping a lot of people. And I kind of feel, and when I did a little bit of research on you, I kind of feel like you got that thing going on. To which thing, I feel that there's a certain wording from two different worlds, right, but I do feel a certain connection with having a mission, a journey, yeah, and a purpose. Yes, and that's my that's the basics of my spasis of my story. Yeah, that's amazing. I love that story and I love that you shared a little bit of your past, which I been digging about for you, you know, find something that...

...was a really huge story and that makes sense to why someone that goes through that as a child would resort to self medicating to sort of numb out right. That's sort of where it comes from. Absolutely. Yeah, we're going to take a quick break, but when we come back. You can overdose and die on one. You can never overdose on either. Well, that's not necessarily true. It's very true. No one has ever, ever in a history of life, overdose on cannabis to die ever in the history of existence of cannabis, even back to the Egyptian days. It's a little bit tricky. Now, you know, I have my son, will be to Layla has two kids. That one's fourteen and nine and she's about to go into what I'm thinking about him. What my fear is as a mother. That okay, I smoke pot. I advocate for it on a medical level. I know what it can do for you and I know what it doesn't do to you. Right, we've learned that. Research is showing us that. But, like, because I technically grew up, you grew up, we grew up with it as concept of a drug. Right, it's how do we how do we tell our kids when is the right time to experiment and it isn't? It's a time to experiment. You know, I don't know. Like, how do we determine this is a good thing? In one state it's illegal, in the next date it's not. How do you define that? If if this is my medicine, but I can't go into Louisiana and have my medicine freely without getting thrown into jail, what do I tell my kid? You know, I'm you know. So it's an interesting dynamic. And now you say you go from state to state. How do you deal with that, from state to state? Yeah, my just so you know. So, when I first started out doing interventions, I'm in this now for about twenty years. I've been doing this a long time, right. Yeah, when I first started out, like the number one drug of choice was like crack cocaine. Then moved into heroin opiates, you know, but right now the number one drug of choice with the mental health issues, and there's no question that marijuana is being used by the majority of the cases that I'm going on where marijuana is being used having may I interrupt you for one second and ask a favor? So can we use the word cannabis or weed or pop, because marijuana was sort of placed by the government when they made it illegal, to kind of contribute it to Hispanics and ethnic people. So that name sort of it just rings a little bit of a bad you know, done. I'm getting old. I'm good, I'm open. Me, I want want to be modern. Hey, we're here to educate. You're here to educate everybody. You know, this is just high. On the other hand, Evan, I believe marijuana likes when she said we need cannabis weed and miass weed. Yeah, is never a time where I want to introduce that to my daughter. You know, to me, yes, it's medicinal, but when do you think medicinal change changes to being a pothead and just smoking weed from the second you wake up till the second you go to bed? I do do that, I know I said I hold on when you classify what addiction is in this case, because cannabis does not have physical addiction. Okay, and nine percent of people only get an addiction to cannabis. You have to be an extreme extream smoker, probably like me. Okay, so I wake up at five am, by six am, I my first joint is in my mouth, I'm in bed usually thirty, which I just had my last joint, and I smoke all day and I think that's a problem. But it's not a problem because it never stops me from waking up at five am, working AU date, being with my kid taking care for animals, having a TV show for eleven years now, almost other companies, a cannabis company, starting a food truck company. So you're a how podcast that we're sitting there. You're a functioning drag addict, cannabis addict whatever, most cautioning cannabis addict, I guess, and I think we need you have been here for an intervention because it's out it's out of control. Yeah, yeah, well, I get this conversation. What's happening here right now with you two ladies is what ideal with every week. It's not hap any with two ladies. It is happening with one, with one lady. But now you I got you know, I get this. I and so I have no problem using the word cannabis. I'm cool with that. We're good that. Yeah, thank you absolutely. I think to say that...

...there is no medicinal value, anyone that says that there's no medicinal value to cannabis, I think it's very concerning that someone would be that black and white, to say there's no benefit simply because it's something that they believe is a taboo substance, without having really explored the use the benefit. And I totally agree. I believe that it has medicinal value. However, there's however that goes along with it that there are some people that can have a cocktail or two, but there are some people that if you give them one, I'm sure you guys know somebody in your world's that you give them a one drink, two drinks, three drinks, they're off to the races and it doesn't stop until they pass out. I used to be that way for sure. Well, I saw some of the video, so I yeah have it. I have done Rehab a few times around my life, each time for different, you know, things that I was going through. My first time was two thousand and five. I did a hundred and twenty days. But then I was hardcore, snorting cocaine and ecstasy like daily. It was really bad, really bad, and I started from a very young age. So and then I got good, but then I picked up the alcohol bottle and then that turned into from a couple glasses of wine to a couple of bottles of wine per night, you know, and then it was I could drink any guy under the table. I would have a whole bottle of vodka. You know, it just got you said alcohol. Huh, you still drink alcohol? Hardly ever. Maybe once in a blue moon, like maybe on a holiday. I'll even have a glass. I saw your instagram yesterday. You were having sorry to me now, I wasn't having Oh yeah, no, that wasn't that was a strawberry drink. That so the Instagram to thank you. Thank you, Star. It's a bury and the sack overboard on the table. Trinid put coming. What's happening here? No, I'm just when it comes in reference, we can go there on. WHO's that alcoholic? I don't drink. Oh Lord Child, let's not go into this. This is not about you. Oh my goodness, I'm going back to the conversation which we were talking about, which is, yeah, I wanted to know when you are okay. Let's say someone is once to go into treatment. They are living in a state like California, for instance, they have major coke, cane or alcohol issues and they want help, but they are actively a consuming cannabis. Is this a patient that you would be able to treat? This is somebody that I would be working to get them into a program, because I'm not going to be the counselor working with them individually. I'm the person that comes in when things are chaotic, out of Control. They are, with all and with all due respect to smoking cannabis every all the all day long. There are a lot of people that, if they smoke cannabis all day long, they will lose their minds. Yeah, of course, there are a lot of people who can't function under that. Hundred percent right. There are some people that like, perhaps like yourself, that can smoke cannabis all day, throughout the day, and they're cool. They're chill to take care of their kids, they run their business, everything's fine. In my world, the people that I'm introduced to through the families that are concerned about them, they are smoking pot a lot and in many cases they are losing their minds and they're acting irrationally and out of control, and that's kind of relationship. I'm going to answer your question in this way. If I'm a like I said, there's some people that can drink alcohol and they're cool. There's some people that can smoke pot even all day long and they're fully functioning individuals. They're wonderful mothers and fathers. Are Cool. There are some people, if you give them just a few hits of high grade tha see good cannabis, whatever the right current lingo is, they're gonna lose their minds. They're going to see pink dragons right and they're going to want you. They're going to invite you to ride the pink dragon with them two ver a month. I mean that sounds a little bit more like like an LSD trip or something like that, but I totally understand why you're saying. I am head. We are looking at right now more than cannabis. We're looking at mushrooms becoming federally legalized because it is helping people with severe depression, with so many mental health issues, with no side effects that are being caused by all these antidepressants, because antidepressants they doll your entire emotional state and mushrooms, only you know, they don't do that. It kind of opens a whole different part of your brain which we don't have access to typically on our own. So how do you feel about mushroom legalization and mushrooms as a form of mental health treatment? Absolutely so. In my world, Pillicibin Mushrooms, cannabis.

It almost becomes like a row versus weight conversation, right in the sense that. Oh, you believe in this, you believe in that. Here's what I here's what I believe. If they're in this is my personal opinion. If there is an herbal, holistic way to deal with severe arthritic pain, watch this, or major depression, when you say that you're not taking medications that are also negatively impacting the functioning of your liver and your kidneys. If there's a holistic, natural, herbal way to do that, how could you argue with not doing that right? Right, I think that it's about introducing those options, but doing in a way where it doesn't potentially open the door to a sub a subculture of people that are population that are using the legalization of some substance, unfortunately, to to stay to get sick, to stay sick, and so, for that reason, I have seen personally cases where people were smoke, smoking cannabis. I won't use marijuana. I'm on. I'm on the cathicist thing. I got you. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. Thank you. I'm going, I'm involving, but I've personally seen people that were using it and it was helping them function and deal with issues. With talk therapy, though right. I've seen studies like there's a phase three study going on, but they do it along with talk therapy, like in a controlled environment, as part of the therapy. Correct. That's that's correct. That's the way it should be. Yes, wells the way it should be. It in many cases doesn't go that direction, but I come in when those are potentially holistic herbal remedies start to take over ability, a person's ability to function, because cannabis also has the and you you know, probably, you probably know more about cannabis than I know. Upside down, hundred percent. Yes, but one of the traits that it does have is the hallucinogenic component to it, and at the end of the day, there are some people that when they use cannabis, that's one of the side effects that they experience that oftentimes is very negative in nature and it may hold hold them back from being able to get the benefit from it. So, classification wise, Hallucinagen is not under the classification of cannabis currently. I think it's that comes to mental health and I think that's what it all comes down to. For me, I used to smoke pot as well and before I went to Rehappen, two thousand and five. Along with the coke and all that stuff, I smoked a lot of pot and I did nothing with my life and I was in a very bad state of mind. I wasn't happy with myself. I'd never worked in my life. I got kicked out of ten schools, I was arrested so many time and you know what, it's just that was my life cycle. So for me, anything I did, whether it be cannabis or coke, I was going to have the same side effect, which was being a drug addict. Nothing just sitting around doing drugs, getting high. I got reintroduced to cannabis actually through my mom forcing me to, because I take chemotherapy and infusions for my autoimmune disease and my mom is very holistic and you know, eastern medicine, and she said, I found this doctor, a literal doctor, not the ones that you would just go and get a fake card. He was amazing. He unfortunately passed away a couple months ago. We did do a podcast with him. He's amazing, Doctor Frankel, but he taught me the medicine of cannabis and my whole view shifted and to me, I I was scared at first. I said, I'm really scared to smoke it because what if this leads me back into that other path? But because I'm a logical person and because my Tory choice, theory cars, is really made me realize everything is my choice. I knew that I'm choosing to do this for my health. I'm choosing to do it from my mental state, my physical state and all that. It never became something that got in the way of my life actively now, so it's not an issue for me. Mushrooms, I'm freaking out a little bit because I'm seeing everybody talking to I'm micro dosing today, I'm microdsing today. I'm like, I don't even know what the fuck that means at this point. I tried mushrooms twice in my life and I wanted to. It was the worst experience of that's a hallucinage and I that is a Heli Sangin. I can't even like once in highl cool and once I can't in...

...the beginning of my marriage. Both Times I wanted it to end and it never ended. So I don't. You know, and and I think we both come obviously we're sister, so we come from a family like I have severe panic disorder. I've been on medications since my early S and I take you know, traditional medication, but I can't picture taking mushrooms and being in that state of mind. So no, it's micro Jing, it's controlled and it's all that. But see, that's another thing, because you're throwing out all these pothead and drinking alcohol things. I would much rather my son be a pothead than popping any kind of annex vicing INS or prozacs or any of that. So if it came down to that, absolutely I would rather my child be on a herbal remedy than a lab created Pale. So I mean there's lots. As the motto well, when tells you, when doesn't? You can overdose and die. On one you can never overdose on the other. Well, that's not necessarily true. It's very show no one has ever ever in a history of life overdosed on cannabis to die ever in the history of existence of that. And a talk about the even back to the Gypsil days. I just for me I want more clinical trials. There's so few of them out there and I believe in the last couple of years there you know, John Hopkins and Harvard they're doing more and more studies on it. They can't. They were not able to study something that is federally legal illegal. I'm sorry, all the studies are done in Israel and Australia. If you want to let there are even much on ketamine, because ketamine is legal. Well, because Keta means stolen from labs used for that. That's why you can study ketamine. They don't steal cannabis from a lab. No, but I'm talking about like mushroom sit stuff. Yeah, like those kind of for mental yeah, Ketamine is being considered as a psychological and mental health because it's legal. So they're able, like doctors, are able to not only prescribe it but also in a controlled environment. We're going to take a quick break, but when we come back, people that are going to be smoking on a one around them anyway, animus cannabis. Can you leave them alone? No, I cannot. It's okay, it's okay, and teaching old dog new tricks. Don't worry. How's the Baker Act over there? I know I saw you talk about that and I know that Florida is only as far as the only state that has the Baker Act correct, which is the Florida Mental Health Act of one thousand nine hundred and seventy one. Correct. Correct. It's kind of like your five Thousan one hundred and fifty, right, but it's it's a more usable, more mental health system, usable friendly, in other words words, it's where, if somebody is an imminent danger to themselves or others or unable to function independently because of a mental health issue, that a police officer, a license mental health professional judge, can order that person into hospital, a hospital for evaluation and assessment and, if used properly, it could be a very good thing. If not, it could be a trapdoor for somebody with underlying mental issues that they won't be able to get out of, because the system, once you get in it sometimes and the state takes over, it's very hard sometimes to be able to get out of that system, especially when it's a psychiatrist making a determination whether or not you should stay here from extended period of time or not. You do you yourself make this assessment when you do an intervention, or do you how to? Are you able to do this? Do you have to be OLPS certified in Florida as well? This is a this is a great question. It also ties into substance abuse as well and mental health. The answer to question is yes, when I conduct an intervention, during the course of the intervention, because I'm as a license counselor here in the State of Florida, if somebody meets that criteria, not only do I do it, but I have a responsibility. I am mandated to take have that person brought in for a psychiatric evaluation. It's a very difficult it's, you know, taking away somebody's freedom right. It's one of those things where you got you you don't take it lightly. It's it's an extreme but there are cases where you have to do it. So, during the course of the intervention, if I'm sitting there and the person is potential, you know, in the process of hurting themselves, cutting themselves, hurting somebody else, making statements about a bridge that...

...they are want to jump off or hurt a child or an elder I have responsibility then say okay, let's go ahead and get you safe and then I contact law enforcement and then provide the documentation that I sign to law enforcement and they execute that order and then bring the person to the closest receiving facility it's a powerful mental health tool that we have to work with here in the state and various states across the country have different versions of that type of order and in many communities it also has to do with, you know, community, what the community is willing to accept. Certain communities have a bunch of people that are have mental illness that could be an hospital, but they're not in a hospital. They're out on the street. Some some communities don't. It's all about where you feel that the person could best receive the care that they need and that's why in the state of Florida there's a lot of people that are Baker acted. Yea. We also have a Marchman Act too, and the Marchmont Act is specifically for substance abuse. Substance Abuse. The Baker Act provides for three days of involuntary assessment. The march men act provides for five days of involuntary assessment. Wow, and is that just for Florida? Is that just for the State of Florida? It's just for the state of Florida. We have a fiwo fifty, which is a longer than a seventy two hour hold here. Yep, this is specifically for substance abuse. So if you can demonstrate to the court, to a judge or magistrate, that this person is unable to function because of out of control drug use, then a sheriff's deputy could come to that person and then take them to the closest facility for assessment and stabilization. I think I I was in one of those right. It was. I did like a hospital form of detox and I had I remember walking through the halls, because you're only able to walk to the house. I would see people handcuffed and or whatever to their their Guarne beds, like and we were there for five, seven days. Was it an involuntary hold? You, you guys took me. Don't you remember when I was pregnant? Yeah, I think your psychiatrist that came to the House that they said they told me I need to go, but I think I was like voluntarily. It was literally drink. I would drink at least a bottle or two of Whiskey to myself every night. So they're they're like worse differences here because I I work at a medical practice than we work in psyche as well. So it's not every psychiatrist here. They have to be lps certified to be able to put somebody under a fif one hundred and fifty or a fiwo and fifty. Right, it's a little bit more complicated like, for example, in California it's a higher bar, there's more, there's more, just more of a it's a more of a rigid system in place, whereas in Florida it's, I don't want to say it's laxed, but it's less restrictive. Well, they do have to be an imminent danger to their self or others and they have to actually verbalize it. I am going to hurt myself, I am going to hurt somebody else. And then what we usually do, because it happens quite a bit in our nursing homes in the geriatric population, where we call out a pet team and they will come in and assess the situation and or the psychiatrist who is lps certified could write the order and they'll take him in, or a police officer, you know, over here. I do want to go back to the question you asked earlier about when you should talk to your kids about Oh, sure, I'd love to hear what you have to yeah, I'd love to hear that. So I kind of see marijuana and alcohol. Cannabis. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, cannabis. Well, what's the difference between marijuana and cannabis? Because it is a racially a profiled word at this point. So it's a respect. It's a respect. I'm not trying to have any cancel culture and I advocate for cannabis. So I don't like the word marijuana anymore. Una us. Sorry, it's learning process. Learning Process. I'm too because it's the first time I've heard of that. It's a thing for fifty year olds. I think it's okay. First of all, your three years are and I'm not fifty. Hit the fifty button. Yeah, I'm almost there. I'm not there at all. Okay, and she's not very far behind me. So Oh, I've I would love to hear how you have to help our children, please. Your right around the corner from it, so this or up. So, with that said, I think that alcohol and marijuana similar. Cannabis. I'm sorry, cannabis. Sorry, cannabis already. I'm really come on, heavn. Okay, I'm on your show. It's okay, you come on mine. I'll still see cannabis, but I think cannabis and alcohol similar.

I think that there are cultures where alcohol use is started a much younger age, like in Europe, where it is you drink wine with your dinner. It's it's part of society, it's part of culture. I think that kids are going to be in having they're going to have people that are going to be smoking my one around them anyway. AMIS cannabis. Can you leave them alone? No, I cannot. Know. It's okay. It's okay. And teach an old dog new tricks. Don't worry. So cannabis. So I think that. I think that at the end of the day, you have somebody who turns twenty one and in our in our society, in our world, and they'll have a drink with their mom or their dad or whatever. It is part in certain in certain parts of America or in certain homes. It is something that people do. You have a drink with it. It drink right. I am in the states where cannabis, cannabis is legal. Thank you. Thank you. Want know it's good. I deserve in states were cannabis is legal. I could see a parallel, yeah, where this is something that you potentially could share with a family member at their age of majority, if that's something that is legal in that state. I have to word it that way to be very, very tenderously. It's yeah, it's very it comes down to the wording. I get that. But I will also say that there are in once again, in the world that I work in and I'm brought in in, marijuana, cannabis. Cannabis is the is what the person is using. In those cases, unfortunately, as they try to self medicate with the cannabis, they become psychotic, they become out of control, and that's when I'm brought in to get them help mental health. That's you know, and I also was curious with Layla correct yes, earlier on we're. I wanted to understand. We Guy, I know where this is gone. All right. Well, I wanted to understand we're. I thought you were demonstrating concern for gg one million pers see, I can't handle the constant smoking. Okay, you know, and let's be real, you have a sip of alcohol or a drink, when you have one drink, it alters you a little bit, your functionality changes, and it's the same with weed. No, it is we cancel culture to or can I say weed. You could say weed. I told you, I gave you permission. We cannabis. You're okay, we can cannabis or fine, Matt. Don't get me wrong, I smoked a lot of weed in my day. I'm okay, a lot. I started in high school and I probably smoked all the way through until I got pregnant and obviously stole. You forced me to smoke from my first time when I was eleven, by holding my head, okay, a bomb, plugging my nose and telling you to bee. Now you're lying. Just so. Havan CANNAB and even now he's a liar. Yeah, I'm just having she's a liar. First, I hold the truth. Okay, but I did. I didn't force her. She totally held my mouth over the Bonk. I might in your high school and actually very young, and she's like, it's way of this works. is every be quiet and let me talk. I want your first time. I want you to know what it is. Yes, now, be quiet. It was. It was a lesson. Can you shut up? Ah, shut up now. Okay, that's the statute limitations on that. So we should be okay. Yes, I'm a putty. So she's quiet. I could respond yes, the first time was with a group of my friends and I was probably in ninth grade and she was probably in sixth grade, because we're three years apart, and I was eleven and sixth grade, which I would never do now with my kids. But yes, I used to smoke a lot of weed and we and I was very, very functional. So I understand what she's saying. Like I felt like I had the greatest ideas. I opened up companies. I ran a huge company with over six hundred reps that worked in my organization. I'd get up there and train all these financial advisors. Right after I sparked up a joint. But then it got to my panic attacks started in my mid twenties. So we're talking about a mental health issue, not but Ann Abusis you the we'd made it worse. So I would self medicate, but then I couldn't leave the house because the paranoia would set it and that paranoia never ever ended. That's a strong sativa girl. You need an indica. I get you, and in the...

...cup. Okay, first of all, no, but that's a mental health issue, because that's what I'm saying. It's like it's where you are mentally in your life. Because, if you can see, cannabis makes people paranoid because cannabis activates a part of our brain that we can't activate on our own. It cannabis can activate it. Most people fear that everything is heightened and lighten. Everything's a more amazing, sounds bigger, everything's funnier. You feel like you've been laughing for an hour, but it's been two seconds. Everything is different. Right. When you understand the normal to that, the paranoia subsides. But if you have panic disorder that you're not actively getting mental health help for, then yes, anything you have a drink or whatever, you're going to get weird. I don't get that weirdness. With alcohol I become social, and that's about going bad. And if I use out vers, it is social. That's bad. No, I said, when I drink I get more social. Right, because you can't be social without it. I am totally social without it. But what I'm saying is good thing. My if I smoke some we thank God. If I smoke some weed, I become a hermit. I can't even answer the phone when it rings, I I wanted to. I can't do it it with people. I'll do it at night I used to do it at night after the kids were asleep. I would smoke a little joint and it was all indica, like, not even a hybrid. It was like straight up indica. Put me to bed, but I couldn't even answer a phone, like I couldn't not talk to anybody. I felt like everybody would know that I'm high and the paranoia would set in. So it is just not for me. Evan, we have determined cannabis is not for Laylah and we have also determined you are awesome for really making the effort to say cannabis every single time, and I do have one last thing to ask you. Absolutely, while everybody heads over to your website, behavior helpcom thank you. They could also see and when your articles that you're going to change Marijuan. It's a cannabis you got it. Yeah, I also have one more question for you. When can I schedule an intervention for this one? I'll fuck this stuff, I'm about. That's a good question. So about a week out? About a week out? Okay, we just need to get the family together. Where my mother? We'll get him here. What but that? Your headphones are gg can we get her mic to stop working for a minute. As we schedule this, it's gonna be a very loving, supportive event. I think you're coming into the wrong family for loving sorting of. I saw your intervention to Kim Kardashian, so I'm going to do exactly like him, Kardashian, did, and I want to continue to eat my cereal and pretend like it wasn't even happening. But, like you said, you are you are certified to put it in a Fifousan, one hundred and fifty or what? Do we need? That we bake. We got to go to no where. We don't need the Baker Act, but we need the other act. Well, the Mar Martyr Act, Marchman, no, not martyr, my Marchman. Okay, we need the Marchmen act like staven osh shred. Thank you so much for being here, genuinely, gg this has been informative, it has been amazing, it has been fun and I'm probably going to have to go kick her ass after we end this call. He will schedule you for next week. Maybe we can get it on air to a yeah, yeah, thank you so much, Ivan, nice to meet you. Thank you so much. All Right, guys, thank you for having wow. Well, that was that was a good episode. I was I was interested in where that conversation was going. Not, not with, not, you know what. Hold on, hold, shut up for Lessa I didn't say anything, Lailah, well, I don't. I have to shut up. Oh my God, I blue smoking your face. It didn't talk. Jesus Christ, as did you get, bitch? I will say I will say this. I will say this. I am a little partial to, for instance, magic mushrooms becoming recreationally used, because I do know how it can really impact people's brains and it should be more controlled. So, with Evan and you guys, I agree that things should be more controlled. On the mushroom talk, the cannabis par art, I'm still going to stick to my guns. I don't think it has gotten in the way of me performing my daytoday, tasks my life. It is not me mean angry person or anything. I think once we have the intervention, that'll all be determined. And you know now, I know I got. It's a hire em and bringmen for you, you guys. Like I said, you know, I think we'll change the fuck are you doing. You'll see. Why? Where did you get an owl from to put over my g why? Are you putting an elk? Don't break my shit. What the fuck? Welcome to the genuinely LG show,...

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