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Confess Your Mess! W/ Emile Ennis Jr. & AJ Gibson

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Straw media. Well, what's up, y'all? Thank you for joining us at genuinely Geeg. Oh my gosh, I feel like I feel like a lot is changed in my life right now. Yeah, good, let's elaborate a little. I feel like, well, my son is getting older and I feel like we right now with Eli being he's almost seventeen months and he's just turned into a human and he has affections and he runs up to me and hugs me and kisses me and it's just I feel like it's changing me and I'm becoming more like protective. I'm setting up a lot of boundaries, like territorial way, like in a little scary type of a way. So I don't know, I'm a little nervous because I did just meet someone. Okay, wait, Whoa? I have not had a guy in my life since shot them. So that was six years, five years, six years ago. So I that long has it? Yeah, I hooked up with someone randomly three years ago in Greece. What's a friend? But mm wait, wait, I have not dated someone since my accessment. Okay, so this is a big deal for me, but it's really feel be yours. Now I have a son and I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Like how do you introduce someone? Like are you supposed to be just friends? You just say, like, oh, that's uncle Bob, like you know, what do you do? Like I don't know what do. I just keep it a secret. And isn't just my friend and only you know. Don't let Eli See. I mean, just keep that a secret. You know. I don't know. and Are you telling me? You're asking me? My opinion on this ull depends on your answer. Okay, so I'm gonna give my answer and you can tell me if you want me to. So I think that it's great. I'm so excited for you. I think that it lies as you too is is still too young, so that I think it's okay if you bring this person around. I don't think you need to do it like right away. Let me know you like, let it like, let it's you know, let's take its course. That would be organic, and when it's ready, you know, at the right time is right time. And I think Elijah again, if he was a little bit older, it's a whole other thing. Yeah, right now it's okay. Well, here's the thing. I mean, it's one thing that I want to start dating again, but it's another thing that I want to start dating in the sense of polyamory. And how long do I keep that in before? Okay, so you know how I feel about polyamory and you, I think you're full of Shit. I think that you just haven't at the right person, and this could be the person. If he is great in every way. Now, if he's a you are not going to want to do polyamory shit with him because he's going to be great. So I say just wait, wait, don't you, because I keep it a secret. You could talk to him about it, but then you don't want to talk to him about it. Well, I think if you, if okay, you talk about it to him when you're dating him and you're seeing that boy. So what you're saying is, I keep it a secret. Keep it a secret. I love them different. I don't think I can keep it a secret, and I think that this is the best conversation to have with our guests today, AJ and a meal, which have a podcast. Confess your mass. They live off of people revealing secrets, and I just want to know what is that like, hearing people secrets? What does it feel like? It what does it look like when you watch people reveal these secrets? You know what I mean. So I'm excited because it was a great conversation. I feel like I learned a lot. I probably need a few more questions from a few different people on revealing my polly ways to this new guy, but they taught me a lot today this conversation. So let's cut to it, everybody. Let's go and talk to a J and a meal from confess your mess. You know her from Shaws of sunset. You know she doesn't hold back. So you keep secrets, and secrets turn into pain...

...and that pain ripples into the family and everyone holding that secret starts having to lie. This is genuinely gg what kind of adable did you take? Yeah, did you tell you know your Racquemino. It's like a piece of chocolate. Is a like a ment is got a gunny watermelon lemonade. It is called bliss. The camino makes different kinds and this one supposed to yeah, it makes realise that good. It's like energy and chill at the same time. I can't take like vitamins that are gummies because I feel like an overdose on those. I could not do that I would be like that. I would find yeah, Die Roum, like, no joke. Literally, we take ten a day. Are you do you just popped? You have many? Did you just pop in right now? Just one, just ten and ten a day, like an enter, not like teda. One time meal has a legit. We diction. So the way we work around it is we make our vitamins gummies. So the he's like, I'm like, Oh, yeah, you need a hair gummy right now. On a probiotic. Here you go. If Lucio Ba only knew would be Vita Meta, weed of measurement. Well, why doesn't measurement by don't weed a measurement now, yeah, you just pretty addicted to to smoke a morning. There is why they am to nine percent addiction rate to cannabis. First of all, Anita. So I maybe that less than nine percent, but don't accuse me of it. Okay, Bitch, just not in need it. It's just there's a feeling that comes from eyes. I suffer from depression and I get my my feeling of euphoria from working out and then on the weekends I like to have an edible and it gives me this this upper feeling get work done? Yeah, do you things I don't want to do, like laundry. So really, but not addicted us. There's it's a less than nine percent chance. And Trust me, if you knew how much I consumed, you would understand that you are not a part of that percentage. And so, which what is this dog's name? And is I canting dead? I do think. How do you stalker? I stop people. Oh my God, sorry, Kingston, I made it up. King Sols Emils, mother side of Families Jamaican, and Kingston's the capital of Jamaica. He has family there. So named. My goodness, that is the cutest fluff ball. How old is he? Ten months as here, almost eleven. Oh my God, he needs to come play with Josja, my dog. She'stal is turned to but she's I got now. She's actually put on somewhay. She's about a hundred and fifteen pounds right now. She's big. Oh, she's a big girl. She's a big girl. Yeah, thirty five, forty pounds. Yeah, this is the biggest of get. Every time mom she's like, oh well, looks like Kingston's eating well, and I'm like, mom, Kingston, would you take your phone and put it on. Wait, AJ you're from Ohio. Where I'm from Ohio? I'm from a little town called Salina and North Coast Ohio, but I went to Ohio state. So, like I call columbcm a Rge I. Oh a fucking bucket way. Yeah, I was more raising Dayton. You Know Salina? No, are you sure you're from Ohio? Ishi if her a Danton. Yeah, we strow the mall a fair filled comments. That was my shit. But, oh my God, I was like this shit. Yeah, there was all. Yeah, well, like Salem all. We did that Salemil, which is like a tot. Oh my God, in the Dayton Mall Fair feel. Oh my gosh, salina is right in the Indiana border, about an hour from Lima, like maybe forty five, in the south of Bowling Green. Okay, okay, I went to bowling green till like I have to say I get the most amount of jealousy when Anita meet someone from her hometown home stad. I'm sorry because it's I have never seen such pride. As soon...

...as Aggerson just that, it's like a whole new language begins. It's like I don't exist in the room, nothing matters, but that's me and I wish meal weren't taking care of it all right now, because he's experienced this eight thousand times. So many Ohio there's so many Ohio people are here. It's weird. It's okay, he's there because you grow up and you get there. You have to. Yeah, you have to get right now. From Dayton, another Ohio per, another high and said from it always Ohio, Ohio, Hio, just GD such, just this. I don't exist and I was just saying, you know, anytime Anita meet someone that's from Ohio, it's as if she started speaking a whole different language. I'm my gives it that a highling language, and then my makes, she makes grunting sound, whatever it is that you know. I don't even. I don't exist. I'm not there in the room anymore. Yet thousands make fun of me because I say yeah, yeah, like Ohio. Boy Was it? Yeah, it's yeah, we just got back in Ohio and I was in the hospital for a week. So gracious hire, are you okay now? I was from Ohio food. Yeah, it must have been that Ohio ares. He says a food does the food? It's not Ohio foods. Everyone there is big in the proportions of food or huge and I don't know. I mean he's change a little bit, but I y'all into cleaning your food first. You just want to get people sick. That if from out of town. Is that what you guys do in Ohio? All the food is like it's like fifty shades of gray, but like food. The food is all grayish Brown. There's really not a whole lot of fresh anything. Yeah, and it's all right. Oh my God. Well, I'm really happy you're feeling better and I'm going to take a q and not probably go to Ohio. No, I want to take your with I grew up. I am so happy to have a Jane, a meal on genuinely gg today, because this is going to be our most silliest podcast ever and I'm so excited we get to do it with you guys. You guys have an amazing podcast. Confess your mess and I'm just so interested in knowing. How did you guys get to the point where you were like, we need to create a platform for people to reveal their secrets? How did that even come about? Well, first and foremost, or obsessed with you. So this is really excited. This guy's idea. He came up with it during pandemic, during quarantine. Yeah, so we I will say the quarantine was the slowest and bidious part of our lives ever, like career. Wise, we work the hardest. During Quarantine. Had the most opportunities that we've ever had. Some that was amazing. But I don't know if you guys felt the same way, but towards the beginning of quarantine, every day felt so long and I got so bored and I've got on my instagram one day and I was like, I'm bored, tell me a secret, and it was literally just a boredom thing, and people started revealing like their deepest, darkest secrets to me and I was so confused because they were scandalous, they were silly, they were all over the place, and then I turned into this thing where I would ask every week or so I would do it, and then I had Aj join in and we react these secrets and then people kept saying, we want to see more of this, we want to see longer form of this, want to hear more than just a fifteen seconds snippet. And like keep in mind at this time I was still like a bottle of red wine and a box of cheese's for dinner every single night. That's where I was in the process, doing something productive, creative. Honestly genuinely think you was like, okay, Agier, depressed af so I'm going to get you involved in this. Yeah, I need you to not be sad. So then I started answering with them and it was really fun and it made us feel better about our lives. Because when he wanted to ask that, I was going to say what did it make you feel like reading people's intimate secrets? I mean, for me, I probably because I'm so you know, I have a weird mentality. I would have thought I was lying. WHO's going to reveal their secrets here on a platform? Why would anyone do that? But people probably are. It's therapy for them. Were you receiving it as therapeutic for your self? kind of in a way. I think this twofold and...

...we'll probably get into this if we have this conversation, but the first part of it is there was a bit, I think, from both of us were already telling the truth because on Instagram, which was the initial way that we were getting these secrets, I can you know what if you if you guys do questions. You can see who sending these secrets. I like, I can do this person's profile, see everything about their life and Gd and I me that, look, there were some dark seekers, like I did, the fun stuff, and like the scandalous stuff, where there were some secrets that I would never ever reveal, like some fans, stuff that, if it borders on you know, we can go to Joe if we get involved. We don't talk about those. We have those of the yeah, but I will see. For me, it made me, it made me feel a little bit better about myself in some ways because, and we all have this narrative in our minds were so messed up over, the most messed up person in the entire world. Sometimes right and for me I'm like, Oh, I guess I kind of have it together, I'm not as bad as I thought I was and I'm kind of basic because, well, I thought was like a naughty secret. I'm getting like these responses and these these revelations from people who don't even know us. May feeling like wildest, wildest stuffy and people really just want to get things off of their chest, even if it is to a stranger. To think about it, you as easier. I think, yeah, you know probably have secrets and I guarantee you have secrets that you've never told each other, even though you're super close. There's always the sad for sat they're still secrets. I haven't told Aj but we're getting married and it's one of those things, though, where there's always going to be those super dark secrets if you keep but I would probably tell some of those seekrets to a stranger and in a way, because I can't tell anybody else, it feels like, okay, this person won't judge me, I can tell them the secret and then, wow, that feels good, that's gone, it's released and I can move off my life. Like I went to Catholic school growing up, so it's sort of like confessing to like a priest without like the weird, creepy like angle. Right, we're taking a quick break and when we return, if you were to have to replace your come was with someone else, who would it be? Okay, Wendy Williams. Wendy Williams, I hate her wild. Sorry I mean, but it's is it liberating for you to confess something and do you feel like we need to confess secrets? Yes, and here's the reason why. Because so we before this, because here's the thing. First of all, y'all, we're not about to say here and act like where the experts of secrets. However, we did want to do a little bit of research before we got on here and of course we were looking into the psychology of secrets. Are A lot of studies that people have done over the past decade into the psychology of secrets. And first of all, I think it was saying that starting the age of five, you really start keeping seeking to think about your child. corect I just still he changed from the store. Oh, I pinched sally and you don't want to tell your parents. Or first of all, he'll salad. That is the little bit I I always do random as names, but you got the point. No, but that's like the age where you start to your parents, start to school to you, you start to know right from wrong. Yeah, so that's also the age where a child understands the concept of fear. And fear now is a real thing and fear has consequences. And I'm five and fear scary, fears big. So what is it going to take for me to, you know, keep my mouth shut and have to not say that because of my fear of what's what's going to happen, and then you just grow into that with the society, though, we live, and that's what we grow into with everything, with work, our relationships, our own personal desires, our needs. How many people are in the closet for for lifetime because of a secret? And it's not a secret that they can't keep anymore, it's a secret that they're afraid people can't, you know, hold onto and keep for them and accept. And I think it comes down to that, right. You guys know I'm...

...not. I get very scared with cancel culture. Is it safe to assume that you guys are a gay couple? Yeah, we're engaging gage together. Just celebrating our nine your universary. Yeah, you'd. Thank you. So that's that's that's multiple decades and gay years, but absolutely right. Though GD like it's a life for death situation for many people, and maybe not as much in the United States all the time. I'm anymore. Not that it's not. It's still very unsafe for people come out all over this country, right here in Los Angeles and in small towns. Known from Ohio, and we talked about that a little bit of go and need it. Like Ohio is not the safest space to come out right now. But then you look at certain countries around the world where it's still punishable by death. Right, we're rights to us for around the world. So signing from one of those countries. So you know, I trust me. I get a you know, my friend Razza, which is also on the show, shots a senset. He has an inner hate for, you know, Iran, because in Iran, with the government says is if you are gay, we will offer you a free sex change, or you're not gay, and that means you're either straight or you're dead, and it's just it's an insane thing to hear. But I mean it's I get it. I get it. You gotta. So you keep secrets and secrets turn into pain and that pain ripples into the family and everyone who's holding that secret starts having to lie. Well, and the other part of the the studies that we were looking at is these talk about how ripples in the pain and fear and it also causes so many health issues. And you think all the type of secret. Yeah, we have a sun like stilly secrets, but there are some dark secrets out there to people were holding on too, and one of the studies that we were looking at, it talked about how it leads into all these different health issues because of them. You think about how they talk about how stress has an effect on your health. Even I was them. I told you, guys, I was just in the hospital, and a Jay's been telling me for years I have to get my stress levels under control, because my main form of stress comes in form of career and this perceived perception of what I think my success is versus what it actually is, and like just trying to navigate that. I'm always thinking I'm not where I need to be and everybody else is like, you're doing great. So I've been working on that. I'm managing that. And also, you know, this industry is yeah, much as you as much success as you have the moment you're there. You always expect more and feeling you have to have more, like keep up more and more and more. Absolutely don't. It feels like a it feels like a failure all of a sudden. So, but for us, we're nine years in. I'm marrying this guy and spend the rest of my life with the sky. I could give a flying fuck honestly about Hollywood rights, my industry. I love it right, I'm not willing to die for it, I'm not willing to like lose my health for it, and that and that's something that I'm working on. Yeah, we've acknowledge and that's the stress aspect. But it's the same thing of secrets, and will give a specific example of how, in our own relationship, we navigated this, because we have been together for nine years and there was a moment where we went to this it was like a backyard event with one of our former pastor at a church we used to go to, and the takeaway from that talk that he gave plot twist for Christians. Ye, take away through from that talk that he gave, though, was it was just this moment of transparency and doing this whole thing. So Aj and I, after dissecting this talk, we sat completely naked in bed, facetoface with each other and we told each other our deepest desires. We told each other secrets that could devastate and literally end our relationship. Or were we not in open space right? And these were secrets that we both have been holding on to. I'm talking to the relationship for you, when you guys did this, we were probably here's in, yeah, like six years and six years, and held this Fort Wow. Okay, okay, and when I when I I'm not going to say what those secrets were because that's between that's question. Those are very intimate secrets. But just...

...just to put in the context, though, the two secrets that we reveal like the the two biggest secrets on each of us. It could have ended the relationship, but we were in a space of transparency and trust and we had adult, mature conversations about it and since then we've grown so much closer and I think if we take that aspect of it. Obviously, you know, with some of these secrets everybody's not going to be in a space where they feel comfortable to reveal that toever they need to reveal it to get that closure or to get it off their chest. But for us it was a form of therapy, it was a form of bonding right us. And the assumption, I'm sure you've got listeners right now where the assumption is probably like, Oh, they're on an open relationship there, nine years together, they were gay couple of later and we're not rans but talking about the potential of it and talking about like kinks we have or fantasies we have. Just talking about them freed us up to not necessarily need to act on everything. Oftentimes we old onto stuff because we're so afraid we're get judged by even our partner, even after you've been with somebody. My mom has been married to my Stepdad for thirty years now in Ohio still and she told me one time that never once as he talked to her about in the motion. I am thirty first. I mean that's also that. Can you know? That's conditioning as well. I think we are a product of our environment and if it's we're not raised to, you know, understand that and have the awareness as an adult to go out and get it. If we didn't have it growing up, we get stuck and I think generational gaps between I would say my parents generation, my parents generation, and what's happening now. It's so amazing to see that demand of openness and of transparency. It's becoming more and more. Little by little, it's coming more and more to be different, to be unique, to be honest, whatever it looks like, to be that, and people are learning to accept the all sorts and forms of it. Back in the day, if there was a, you know, someone who decided to be, you know go into trans everyone would mock and ridicule and now we're like best looking bust, you know, it's just were we're celebrating it, and I think we are celebrate some people still celebrate those things through the grins that they have to grin through it because it's they don't want the transformation, but it's happening and these are also, to me, secrets. Its hate and racism and dislike and these are all inner secrets that a lot of people are carrying this day and age that we do have to deal with. which brings me to the question I wanted to ask you, guys. When is it okay to keep a secret, in your opinion, and what is a safe secret, if any? I think that's interesting. I think that I were talking about grandmother years and years ago about this and before she passed. She's been gone for a decade or so now, but she said one time I had done something, I think in a relationship in my early S, and I wasn't cheating, but I was doing stuff that was communicating in a way that wasn't it's conducive to being in a relationship, right under the parameters that we had set in that relationship. And I wanted to tell the person and my grandmother said to me, okay, why do you want to tell the person? So I feel bad, I feel like I tear, like I'm lying to them right now, I'm hurting them. She's okay, is telling them you do. You want to stay with them? I was like, of course I do. Okay, if you tell them, is it going to help them in any way? I was like no, is it going to help you? Yeah, so, if the only reason you want to tell them is to get it off of your chest, you don't tell them the secret. It's if you're going to stay in the relationship. You didn't cheat on them, you didn't put their health or their life at risk. The only thing that's going to happen is you're going to really hurt them emotionally, but it's going to like free you up. You hold on to that because that's your problem. You did that, you work through that, be a better partner and and hold that. And so in that in...

...that instance, I was like, oh, that makes sense, because you're the truth is this. He and I are very open about literally everything. But if I were in a space where we weren't open and I were to go into his email account or his DM's or his text messages, I'm probably going to find something I don't like. Right like you're going to if you go searching, you're going to find Clares. He look long enough. Team always quite sure. But but we're in a space where that doesn't happen because low key, like he has passwords to every single thing on my phone. He can get in my instagram right now. You probably is already logged into it and so and I could probably get into happier. I don't think I have all yours now. That makes me a little bit no laugh. So, like if somebody like sends me like, I don't know, like like a penis pick or something on a DM and it's like a paint, the penis pick, whatever, does that happen? Like we'd like them all the time all. But like that sort of stuff, like I can show him and laugh about it. I don't have to hide those things from he's not going to get upset for me. He might get turned on by it, but he might probably more likely than not, laugh at it. Most of the dictates aren't flatten. Yeah, yeah, so I think that's like, I think that's a good example. I think if you're only telling somebody a secret to get it off your chest and to and release some stress for you, right, it's no benefit to the other person whatsoever. You're just going to hurt him. You hold onto that secret and you do better the next time. I think I would agree with that. But isn't it going to hurt? Like, the studies show that if it stays in, it's going to kind of drive you crazy and cause depression. And well, I think you can tell somebody. Yeah, and yeah, and that's and that's why we're here. Yeah, that's why I we best your message here to tell us to get it off your chest. But he did in his grandma. So don't audience, tell him. But that doesn't meet. But I but I did talk to my grandmother about it. So then make you feel better because you express it to someone else. I was still getting the secret out of me to somebody. So that's going to even everybody from somebody who has a little bit more life sperience than night. Okay, so I still share the secret. Yes, I was experien that burden anymore and I didn't perfect part in the process. If you were to have to replace your comes with someone else, who would it be? Okay, Wendy Williams. Wendy Williams, I hate her wild. Sorry. Would you consider an opinion to be a secret? I mean we all yeah, in a way, it depends, because we all have opinions of well, I think, on everything. I think in recent years we've learned a lot about people's opinions that were kept a secrets for a long time. I think Donald Trump, to me, is the worst human being like our lifetime. Hey, man, being amen, and and I think that especially come from place like Ohio, and you, I'm sure you can probably relate to this. You learn so much about people when they feel free to speak openly about how they actually feel about anybody who's not assist white person. Right, and in the last four or five years I learned a lot about people's opinions that they kept secret. Yeah, for a lifetime. Until Donald Trump was the president of the United States, they felt free to talk. Now, I you know, a lot of people said that to like, Oh my God, how how did we get into all these people got racist because of the president and I'm like no, no, they he just opened the door for them to just come in. Yeah, he was just like Ding Dong, you guys have been suppressed. I'm enough. Come on. So think about that if you if you really put that into the context, then he provided them a space where they felt comfortable to reveal who they truly were. And once you're in a space where you feel comfortable and then it's like okay, secrets out, like I feel like I can reveal this to this group of people and I'm not afraid of...

...the consequences, I'm not afraid of what people think because I'm in this space. So granted, you know, in the we're basically the Gay Alternatives Donald Trum Oh my goodness. But what? What is the safe secret? I mean there's got to be we give. We live in a world where we keep millions of secrets daily, you know, throughout ourselves. And and what's a safe one? I mean there has to be a secret that there's a reason you're keeping it in and that it's safer to always stay in at the expense of what it's doing to you. Is it that ever going to be okay? If I know them, revealing a certain secret might be at Anita's harm. Let's say, God forbid, she killed somebody. I told you not to say anything. Reason bringers. What do? We don't like secrets like could get us into legal from no, but if you killed somebody, yeah, I would. I would not be able to keep that secret. That's morally. I would feel like something's wrong, and something's wrong with you. You need some help and like I look, okay, that's not a secret I can keep for you, Anita. But like, yeah, you told me you cheated on your husband and you don't ever want me, you know, to let him know. I will ride that secret to the grave for you, and I don't care, even that she hurts him, even if you knew my husband, even if I would knew your husband, and you're good friends. With your relationship with another person, it's not my business unless it's affecting me. Yeah, personally. That's when I learned the power of intention. You think about intention behind every single action and then you rain from so much trauma. So I would not I would ride with you because you're my friend. You're like, you know what, this is something I need to unleash. Yes, and my guy got you. I will be that. You know, that bone for you. Yeah, so there's got to be something that's safe to keep. Yeah, there's that's real, I think. And I think that it depends on relationships. Who you ride with the WHO you don't. I think when it comes down to something like murder your I think something you got it, you know, because obviously, if you're your best friend is murdering people, you know there are liveses. I got a Callepo, I talked that friend, or you call the police right away, right. When it comes down to loyalties, you know your loyalty life to your friend first and foremost. You might get to know their partner. I know that his friends that I've met through him. When if, like, Shit hits the fan someday, God forbid, they're on his side. I get that. Yeah, I know who's riding with me too, and I and I, and that's an expectation, right. But I think that, for instance, if I were cheating on him, my best friends, every single one of them, would keep that from him first and foremost, but they would have a real serious sit down with me and say, listen, we love them, you'll we love you. You're not just damaging your relationship. You're not just hurting him, you're also hurting yourself. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. You're actually hurting yourself more than him because you are not living your authentic self. Because if you do have a desire to cheat, means you're not fulfilled fully. For sure, like cout, you weren't for their life of fill to you know what I mean. So you it's damaging you more than it is your partner, in my opinion. Yeah, and if you you care about somebody, if they were in your life and you care about them, you let them know that. That's what a real friend does, or real family. That's that's what they would do. So I think there are certain things that don't need to be revealed. Let me take this back a couple nottions. Let's say someone did something to Elijah. Okay, YOU'RE gonna kill to say my son. You'RE gonna kill that person I did that thing to Elijah. Then you're going to tell me that you killed someone because I tell it they but if I killed somebody, I would never tell I would probably you don't have many people are buried under this house right now. I need to be surprised, but no,...

...but I wouldn't. But if you, if someone did something, I would be like, dude, let's go. I would probably come with you to do something to that person. That doesn't Elijah. But if you told me that in confidence and it was, I yes, well, police says to you or the attorney says to you, Anita, thirty five years for you, if you do not tell, then you're going to say, yes, that bitch killed him. Yeah, you do this, okay, but when you can never see your family again, or your kids again, or your husband again, or your mom or your dad again for thirty five years, so that means they're all their grave, then you're going to say that's the bitch that killed them. Her on weapon is under the bed. She washed it in my scene. What up until the cops come to me and corner me like that, I would never say anything, even I that's what I never tell you, because I know tell me, because then I could be that said you snitched on me. You should tell me, I shouldn't. Okay, I don't know anyway. So I nita. She's protecting you right now. Yes, she's pretty okay. You don't tell J G and the lie were with a Campbell stick. Was that getting clue? Oh my God, Oh, Ajd and we all. I am so happy that I got you guys to be on. It's just it's been funny from the start to the finish and I love your podcast, confessor mess I can't wait to be on your podcast. It's going to be I'm nervous because I feel like, yeah, I got a really dig, I gotta Dig. I've been I have had cameras in my life for the last ten years. It's hard to come up with some secrets. Whenever we have a guest on right, we say we want you to reveal a secret or two or three, but at least as one juicy secret. Yeah, and we didn't realize like how hard people because one of our recent guests, think by all, he said perfectly. He said if I had a juicy secret I wanted to reveal, would be a secret. And so people get so scared because they're like, well, what do I reveal? One that I haven't revealed already when you're a personality, and then two, one that I actually want to share. And it's tricky because we always have a celebrity guest on every episode. Right, celebrity, I mean, imagine if it was Kevin Spacey. That'd be a big secret. Will tell you this, as a gay man, the worst cupt secret in all Hollywood. We all knew. We all knew. Yeah, however, they're interesting, though, when you live your life on camera, to actually go reveal a secret. But the funny thing is, though, as open even as reality star or something. You know this and you worked with some of them on camera before, and it's frustrating. But as open as people claim to be, they're still high and shit. Yeah, people have alter your motives when they go on camera, especially in reality do. You might think you're getting all the tea. There's such person that they're holding for when they're not on camera. But you know, it's so it's difficult to get people to come on and actually, which is why we usually they sit with us the entire episode and other people's secrets so we can judge other people right sea, we get you are one of their secrets and low key, I tell every secret. I'm so bad. Yeah, I and he tells every secret everything, even secrets that I did not approve of him telling. That are in my life. That's I've been working. I've been working Hollywood for Gosh, almost a decade now, right, and I am usually on this side of the camera. I'm usually interviewing celebrities. Right, I would be interviewing gg on a red carpet, as opposed to like hanging out with her on the red carpet. I'm the host, I'm the guy. That's what he does as well. By this, for me, at forty one years old, has been interesting because, like we talked about, you know what, I need a growing up in Ohio, like, we're raised a certain way, to think a certain way and to have certain limitations of Yes, yes, yeah, when I moved out here, I remember I heard my mom saying fifteen years ago, honey, you can't get a tattoo, you'll never work in your entire life. And that's the sublief system that I had, right my dad's. I can get my ear. Spiritually, I wasn't work in Allywood. Yeah, or though these people think you're gay. I'm like a well sorted now this younger generation, all these kids who listened to like the Olivia Rod Regros Regos of the world, who went out Olivia Ard Regos of the world, and I'm doing is new.

I'm like honey, that's just paramoor repackags, just all it is. Yeah, he's young. Kids are doing the same shit we were doing twenty years ago, right, and but there's a freedom and there's a free yeah. So, as a forty one year old grown man who's been in this game for a while, it's exciting for me to do this podcast because I can reveal a side of myself that he knows, yeah, and that my friends no, but that people usually don't get to see when I'm on camera because I'm given a certain image. Right now, Freein and like, what I found is it's like therapy for me, because every deal, yeah, everything, every single thing. Absolutely. I love your dynamic. I lookey had a toe funcus one time and I talked about it recently. How you're going to reveal it to to funk coming back? Awesome. I left big. That's an exclusive DG, just in case you care. You guys have an amazing, amazing energy and I would love to meet you guys and hang out with you guys in person with some cock, yes, and joints and weed and it's Alibon all that. Oh my gosh, Anita, this is your miss my moment, this is your mom. So this is a tie that we like to play this game called. Forgive me, I have sinned. So we are going to ask you questions. Okay, okay, let's get into this. Okay, I'm nervous. I'm as kid. He was a he was a preacher's kid, by the way, and I went to okay, we find some try think. Okay, I'M gonna go for AJ on this one. Okay, okay, we guys to both answer you guys and about the answer, but so first, but you go first. Okay, yeah, Kay, have you ever, which I think this is partly I need. I just talked about that fucking question. Always happens. He's more nothing. I'm an open book. I literally answer like the one question on your page. You're afraid to ask, ask me and I'll probably it's already okay. Have you ever secretly fantasized about a celebrity crush while pleasuring yourself? Oh, of course, absolutely, Michael B Jordan that part. Sorry, of course, like he's fine. Yeah, I don't know. I want to do it as lessons taking. No, I don't know why. I just took notes. My I just wrote my college is finest girls in the industry right now, Laura, and also very much not on the man heard going concern on mine. Okay, okay, I mean I mean you're mul I mean I'm gonna yeah, let you take. I've had that. I've had that happened multiple time. So with different, different celebrity questions, multiph well, yeah, one up you, I'll tend up. You have ten OUTA list of ten. Wow, or I'm going down my list. Can you give me one? Anyone? Okay, so it changes. The Chris Evans is always up there somewhere. Recent cream captain, Supreme Prime Captain America shape that he's hot. Wow. Oh well, this is probably on both of our lists right now because we're watching lovecraft country. What's the actor's name? But the League Guy, what is his name? I don't know the League guy's name, but he his body is in lovecraft. Which one lovecraft country? On Hiel Max? It's but I google those right now. Yes, ten episodes. It's the weirdest shit you'll ever seen. Your okay, what's it? Oh my goodness, so you have a cross Jonathan Majors. Nathan Majors, yes, he's not. Thanks. Yeah, I got a look. So like these like hero figures. Yeah, Michael Jordan. Okay, so you're gonna have to wear a cape for Halloween, AJ and only the Cape. Yeah, for he usually it's perfector Gibson. When we play he puts on dirt glasses and then I have a backpack and Il fake chemistry homework I print off line. I'm like, I need help, professor. Oh my God, that's either but whatever. Okay, we'll start with a...

...meal first. If you were to have to replace your co host with someone else, who would it be? Okay, I talk about just the Pod, right, like, not for real life. Okay, right, like your let's say famous, famous hosts that are already out there. If you had to replace your co host with a famous host for okay, okay, I will say for the type of podcast that our podcast is, just because it will be messy. It would get canceled every single week, but the rating will be through the room. Wendy Williams a good one. I'm taking down again. I don't know her. You know I don't know her. Yeah, I was fucking bitch whole Wendy Williams. I hate her. Sorry, what I think? Some I just think she's not a nice I think that she's had some one too many times. She has come for people but then played the victim role and had some unfortunate circumstance in her life that attached to that moment that everybody forgave her and it just I get it. People Change. Hello, I'm the product, but I feel like certain behaviors keep repeating with her over the years. Yeah, I don't know, she's just shade. I feel like we're living in a world right now that is so filled with hate and anger and animosity and and unjust death. Right, I don't find it cute anymore to have a host that that makes a living now about making fun of people. It's just not cute anymore. I think we're in a different time. Right, Emiliet, to pick someone else, because GIG doesn't occur. I will say this. I will just say this because I know her personally and I've worked with her for many, many years and she's so wonderful to me and her entire team are so wonderful to me. Well, that's great, but I hear you, though. I hear you because I think that the the culture has shifted so drastically in recent yeah, somebody like a Perez Hilton, who used to like make a like starn exactly. We don't need hard sting anymore. We don't need that type anymore here. She's your friend. I'm my bad, my bad, I know, but I hear you, though I abolutely a thousands than agree with yeah, I don't know her personally, I just know her base off and entertainer, and I just feel like it's been negative, Nancy for a while. Yeah, it could be done a different way and that's what I think. That's what you're doing now, that we're trying to do now, and I think that's yeah, it's exciting. So you are you picking a back up? I don't know that did that. Well, WHO's yours? Tiffany Haddish, for sure. Yeah, but I'll be sure. Yeah, for share. Very funny. No, crazy. So years ago Tiffany and I worked together. We didn't like work together together, but we worked at the same little digital network called white size TV. It was around for a minute. We did like a little Internet show and it's how I actually got my start in TV. We did a show called Hollywood today live that got picked up by Fox. We do a six week test your source hosting a national talk show five days a week on Fox at the time. I think I was one of maybe two openly gay men on daytime TV. Wow, it was me and Clinton Kelly, I think, was over on the chee or something like that. And tiffany had as worked at BITE SIZE TV as well. She had a show, I think, well Mike the MIC. She was doing the SUCUMM stand up show once a week. Our show got picked up by Fox. Because of it, they canceled all the other programming on our network to focus on all the resources on making our one show a success. Because our show work, then they would have the income to support the other things. Right. So crew story. Tiffany Hadsh got let go of a job because my show got picked up. Fast forward a few years. She's a superstar right, and freaking person on the planet right, and I got I got fired from that job and replaced by Ross Matthews has. So you better...

...bring her back. You better bring her back. God would give anything to host anything with Tiffany Hattersh. Let's put that out into the universe. She's and, my Gosh, I'm putting it out there for you too. She's so fucking cool man. She's funny, she seems humble when you know just in her interviews and stuff, she just seems like you know the girl next door, like that's just a neighbor, like I that's the homie. You know what? I know I love her. She's funny as home and see that I'm work with her in a heartbeat. Oh my Gosh, a J and Emo, thank you so much for joining us on genuinely gg. If anybody wants to check out their podcast, which you should, because that's really good, confess your mess. It's out there. Check them out and write them a review and give them their ratings because, trust me, they're hilarious. They're really gone. Wait to have you on. Get your secret. Yes, they could GE urn. We not good, you know. Thank you, guys. Thanks, thanks for listening to genuinely gig. download new episodes every week and, if you haven't already, subscribe and be sure to leave us a rating and review and, while you're at it, check out some of the other great shows available on Straw hunt media.

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